How smart is S.M.A.R.T.?

[Keith Smith]

Sorry to hear Seagate is not as good as Hitachi.  As I recall, there was 
a discussion on this list about who was the best and I think Hitachi 
took a lot of hits.  I think Dell puts Seagate drives in their boxes.

What manufacture makes the best today?




On 2014-10-17 22:05, Brian Cluff wrote:
> Seagate has been cranking out such bad drives lately, I think I would
> rather have a used hitachi than a new seagate.
> 
> Brian Cluff
> 
> On 10/17/2014 08:43 AM, techlists at phpcoderusa.com wrote:
>> 
>> If you have credible evidence that Seagate is selling used Hitachi
>> drives as new and under their label I'm sure your State Attorney 
>> General
>> would like to hear from you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2014-10-17 10:08, George Toft wrote:
>>> How many [thousand] hours on the drive?  I think you're gambling if
>>> you have more than 26,000 hours (3 years) and ESPECIALLY if it's
>>> really a Hitachi drive.  Seagate bought Hitachi recently, and from
>>> what I've seen, are selling used Hitachi drives as "new" Seagate
>>> drives - check the model number and the run hours!
>>> 
>>> Hard drives are killing me this year - I've spent over 80 hours in
>>> rework because of failed drives - especially with Seatachi drives 
>>> (see
>>> above).  80 hours of rework at no pay is a painful lesson.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> George Toft
>>> 
>>> On 9/11/2014 4:06 PM, parabellum7 at yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Greetings!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have a 500GB Seagate ST3500312CS SATA drive salvaged from a
>>>> decommissioned DVR. The DVR's OS said SMART status OK. The latest
>>>> Seatools disk utility from the Seagate website says the drive is 
>>>> A-OK
>>>> (short test, long test, full erase, re-test) no errors found.
>>>> 
>>>> However, the Gnome disk utility in Mint 17 says 'Threshold not
>>>> exceeded' and 'Disk is OK, 178 bad sectors'.
>>>> 
>>>> Some other SMART attributes displayed:
>>>> 
>>>> ID1        Read Error Rate: 152141757
>>>> ID5      Reallocated Sector Count: 178 sectors
>>>> ID187     Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 0 sectors
>>>> ID198    Uncorrectable Sector Count: 0 sectors
>>>> ID199    UDMA CRC Error Rate: 0
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> GSmart Control 0.8.7 is reading the same thing, 178 sectors, but 
>>>> also
>>>> says it's OK.
>>>> 
>>>> running an e2fsck from gparted reports 0 bad blocks.
>>>> 
>>>> I've also retested in another machine with different cables to
>>>> minimize the possibility of bogus hardware or BIOS issues, but the
>>>> results remain the same.
>>>> 
>>>> Seagate's website has a FAQ that says their tools should be the 
>>>> final
>>>> say as they're designed to work correctly with their drives.
>>>> 
>>>> Normally a bad sector or two wouldn't bother me, I have drives that
>>>> have been running for years like that. I just keep backups fresh and
>>>> check for bad sector growth. A few bad sectors is within spec and
>>>> that's why HDD's have a reserved area. Yet somehow 178 sectors seems
>>>> like a lot.
>>>> 
>>>> Should I trust this drive for anything more than a paperweight?
>>>> 
>>>> Should I trust anything with the words 'smart', 'affordable', or
>>>> 'free' in the name?  ;]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --Kenn
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