How smart is S.M.A.R.T.?

Wayne Davis waydavis at centurylink.net
Fri Oct 17 08:58:41 MST 2014


The info shows you have not lost anything BUT you do have some bad spots 
on the drive which have been de-allocated.

IF you have the time, you can use "Spinrite" to re-cert a drive. I did 
this once with a drive that was "JUNK" and given to me from the company 
I worked for.  It took a week on Spinrite, but after that did not fail.  
I took it out of service due to it's size years later.  (SMALL) Spinrite 
writes every possible combination of data BITS to every writable area, 
locks out bad sectors and more.  IT DOES WORK.  I've used it several 
times over the years.

www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm







On 10/17/2014 08:08 AM, George Toft wrote:
> How many [thousand] hours on the drive?  I think you're gambling if 
> you have more than 26,000 hours (3 years) and ESPECIALLY if it's 
> really a Hitachi drive.  Seagate bought Hitachi recently, and from 
> what I've seen, are selling used Hitachi drives as "new" Seagate 
> drives - check the model number and the run hours!
>
> Hard drives are killing me this year - I've spent over 80 hours in 
> rework because of failed drives - especially with Seatachi drives (see 
> above).  80 hours of rework at no pay is a painful lesson.
>
> Regards,
>
> George Toft
>
> On 9/11/2014 4:06 PM, parabellum7 at yahoo.com wrote:
>> Greetings!
>>
>>
>> I have a 500GB Seagate ST3500312CS SATA drive salvaged from a 
>> decommissioned DVR. The DVR's OS said SMART status OK. The latest 
>> Seatools disk utility from the Seagate website says the drive is A-OK 
>> (short test, long test, full erase, re-test) no errors found.
>>
>> However, the Gnome disk utility in Mint 17 says 'Threshold not 
>> exceeded' and 'Disk is OK, 178 bad sectors'.
>>
>> Some other SMART attributes displayed:
>>
>> ID1        Read Error Rate: 152141757
>> ID5      Reallocated Sector Count: 178 sectors
>> ID187     Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 0 sectors
>> ID198    Uncorrectable Sector Count: 0 sectors
>> ID199    UDMA CRC Error Rate: 0
>>
>>
>> GSmart Control 0.8.7 is reading the same thing, 178 sectors, but also 
>> says it's OK.
>>
>> running an e2fsck from gparted reports 0 bad blocks.
>>
>> I've also retested in another machine with different cables to 
>> minimize the possibility of bogus hardware or BIOS issues, but the 
>> results remain the same.
>>
>> Seagate's website has a FAQ that says their tools should be the final 
>> say as they're designed to work correctly with their drives.
>>
>> Normally a bad sector or two wouldn't bother me, I have drives that 
>> have been running for years like that. I just keep backups fresh and 
>> check for bad sector growth. A few bad sectors is within spec and 
>> that's why HDD's have a reserved area. Yet somehow 178 sectors seems 
>> like a lot.
>>
>> Should I trust this drive for anything more than a paperweight?
>>
>> Should I trust anything with the words 'smart', 'affordable', or 
>> 'free' in the name?  ;]
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> --Kenn
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