How smart is S.M.A.R.T.?

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If you have credible evidence that Seagate is selling used Hitachi 
drives as new and under their label I'm sure your State Attorney General 
would like to hear from you.




On 2014-10-17 10:08, George Toft wrote:
> How many [thousand] hours on the drive?  I think you're gambling if
> you have more than 26,000 hours (3 years) and ESPECIALLY if it's
> really a Hitachi drive.  Seagate bought Hitachi recently, and from
> what I've seen, are selling used Hitachi drives as "new" Seagate
> drives - check the model number and the run hours!
> 
> Hard drives are killing me this year - I've spent over 80 hours in
> rework because of failed drives - especially with Seatachi drives (see
> above).  80 hours of rework at no pay is a painful lesson.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> George Toft
> 
> On 9/11/2014 4:06 PM, parabellum7 at yahoo.com wrote:
>> Greetings!
>> 
>> 
>> I have a 500GB Seagate ST3500312CS SATA drive salvaged from a 
>> decommissioned DVR. The DVR's OS said SMART status OK. The latest 
>> Seatools disk utility from the Seagate website says the drive is A-OK 
>> (short test, long test, full erase, re-test) no errors found.
>> 
>> However, the Gnome disk utility in Mint 17 says 'Threshold not 
>> exceeded' and 'Disk is OK, 178 bad sectors'.
>> 
>> Some other SMART attributes displayed:
>> 
>> ID1		Read Error Rate: 152141757
>> ID5  	Reallocated Sector Count: 178 sectors
>> ID187 	Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 0 sectors
>> ID198	Uncorrectable Sector Count: 0 sectors
>> ID199	UDMA CRC Error Rate: 0
>> 
>> 
>> GSmart Control 0.8.7 is reading the same thing, 178 sectors, but also 
>> says it's OK.
>> 
>> running an e2fsck from gparted reports 0 bad blocks.
>> 
>> I've also retested in another machine with different cables to 
>> minimize the possibility of bogus hardware or BIOS issues, but the 
>> results remain the same.
>> 
>> Seagate's website has a FAQ that says their tools should be the final 
>> say as they're designed to work correctly with their drives.
>> 
>> Normally a bad sector or two wouldn't bother me, I have drives that 
>> have been running for years like that. I just keep backups fresh and 
>> check for bad sector growth. A few bad sectors is within spec and 
>> that's why HDD's have a reserved area. Yet somehow 178 sectors seems 
>> like a lot.
>> 
>> Should I trust this drive for anything more than a paperweight?
>> 
>> Should I trust anything with the words 'smart', 'affordable', or 
>> 'free' in the name?  ;]
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> --Kenn
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