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[Kevin Fries]

UEFI is not the problem. As a matter of fact,  it probably helps the Linux
enthusiasts break the Microsoft Monopoly better than anything I have seen
in a long time.

UEFI is designed such that there is one one boot secror.  Instead, it had
128 boot records and that number can be extended infinitely.   The standard
was also opened years ago... it was designed by Intel.

Microsoft not one to have their illegal monopoly threatened, came up with
another scheme to lock out open operating systems... security-related OS
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-evaluated_operating_system.  In
this scheme, the vendor would only allow these secured, certified operating
systems to be installed.  You had a choice initially of one... Windows, but
you had only the choice of that one on the list.

Just remember, you may recognize many names on that list, but they are all
paid operating systems.  Because the cost of this certification is
expensive.  That's why you find Enterprise Red Hat, but not Fedora.

Well, the real joke is, most machines sold with Windows 8 have this Bios
feature turned on, but there is an option in the Bios to turn it off.  When
you are no longer limiter to certified OSes, you can install whatever you
like.

Now if HE were only as worried about making their customers happy as they
were making Microsoft happy, they would have told you that.

Kevin
On Jul 18, 2014 10:42 PM, <techlists at phpcoderusa.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-18 19:49, Jerry Snitselaar wrote:
>
>> On Fri Jul 18 14, techlists at phpcoderusa.com wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-07-18 14:19, Bob Holtzman wrote:
>>> >On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700, techlists at phpcoderusa.com
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it
>>> >>will run Linux though.  I think the new HP's will not.
>>> >
>>> >Reason?
>>>
>>> I think it has something to do with the bios.  I have a 4.5 year old HP
>>> laptop that runs Linux, however it is my understanding the new ones will
>>> not.
>>>
>>
>> Are you talking about uefi? That shouldn't be a problem.
>>
>
>
> I do not recall.  It has been about a year. I was going to buy an HP
> laptop and either someone on the list told me it would not run Linux or HP
> told me so.  I did not buy the laptop.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> >>
>>> >>Last year when I bought a new Dell workstation. After telling them I
>>> >
>>> >         ..........huge snip..........
>>> >
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