MPGLUG Phoenix & DeVry Hackfests

[Brian Cluff]

That's not what he said.

Brian Cluff

On 12/21/2014 12:21 PM, Lisa Desperation wrote:
> A quick search of the PLUG Mailman archives shows a GREAT DEAL of
> promotion of other user groups, venues and open discourse on the MAILMAN
> discussion lists.
> Not sure why or when PLUG policy might have changed since the old DLUG,
> PHBUG, ASULUG groups [2006-2011] and even recent AZLOCO examples [where
> AZLOCO is ANNOUNCED ON the MAIN PAGE] in that "you" now suddenly don't
> want any open discussion or mention of other features or LUG meetings
> and lists other than the "announce list"?
> This request to limit any discussion on other user groups seems
> incredibly NEW subjective and arbitrary [just like recent personal
> member email list moderation and censorship].  Where does this competing
> discussion policy exist where we can reference it to guide members and
> the community?
> PLUG Archive References:
> http://lists.phxlinux.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@ml:plug-discuss,azloco.en.html
> http://lists.phxlinux.org/lurker/message/20060729.211840.5105a67d.en.html
> http://lists.phxlinux.org/lurker/message/20080204.233146.77e1d212.en.html
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 21, 2014 at 8:33 AM
> *From:* "Alan Dayley" <adayley at gmail.com>
> *To:* "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>,
> plug-announce at lists.phxlinux.org, plug-security at lists.phxlinux.org
> *Subject:* Re: MPGLUG Phoenix & DeVry Hackfests
> Stop. Just stop. Stop using PLUG resources to tout the advantages of MPGLUG.
> Announce the events, that's fine. Share information, that's fine, too.
> But don't do the equivalent of standing in the PLUG dining room and
> shouting about how the MPGLUG restaurant is so much better. It is rude.
> And it continues to feed an "us vs. them" attitude that will  continue
> to divide the community instead of build a bigger one.
> Alan
> On Sun Dec 21 2014 at 3:12:18 AM Lisa Desperation
> <desperategirl at gmx.com> wrote:
>
>     For those of you who don't want to drive to Chandler, or Tempe,
>     there's MPGLUG:
>     http://www.mpglug.org/
>     MPGLUG Discussion Lists:
>     http://list.mpglug.org/mailman/listinfo/
>     MPGLUG has a 501(c)4 Non-Profit status that allows individual and
>     business donations to be 100% tax deductible therefore ensuring that
>     LUG community interaction is ethical and without secondary gain.
>     Grants, corporate sponsorship, internship programs with local
>     businesses are all possible within our growing community.
>     MPGLUG provides a West Side LUG Meeting at the Burton Barr Library -
>     check their schedule.  They have an open call for presentations and
>     volunteers.
>     MPGLUG now hosts the HackFests at DeVry, operating under the
>     University's OpenSource Community Charter that includes the use of a
>     rack at OneNeck, for the purposes of student community open source
>     involvement [which means occuring at the school] that includes an
>     ESXi server with lab systems for pentesting, practical security
>     academics and forensics.  Hackfest interns all share access to the
>     VMWare environment to setup practical examples to showcase recent
>     exploits or build and test security tools.  The Hackfests provide a
>     monthy remote CTF (using OpenVPN) for the community, have custom
>     Ubuntu Kali LIVE DVD for drop and go hacker use in the university's
>     well maintained lab machines.
>     Presentations are archived online at http://hackfests.it-clowns.com/
>     <http://hackfests.it-clowns.com>
>     Hackfest Mailing Discussion List: http://mailman.it-clowns.com/
>     <http://hackfest.it-clowns.com/index.php/mail-list/>
>     http://meetup.com/Linux-HackFests
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