Yahoo's DMARC policy sucks
Brian Cluff
brian at snaptek.com
Mon Apr 21 08:21:58 MST 2014
At least gmail seems to be delivering them even if it's to the spam
folder. Yahoo is just bouncing them. We've had about 25 list
subscribers get purged from the system due to excessive email bounces.
Brian Cluff
On 04/21/2014 06:38 AM, Shawn Badger wrote:
> That is odd, I am using gmail and all the messages are going to the
> folder the filters labelled them as. I haven't had any messages form
> PLUG in the spam folder, although I have noticed that some messages from
> another list have some messages going to the spam folder.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Derek Trotter <expat.arizonan at gmail.com
> <mailto:expat.arizonan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I thought I wasn't having any trouble with messages arriving, but
> then I logged into gmail via the web and checked my spam folder.
> All that was in there were messages from this list and one other. I
> checked them all and clicked the not spam button. It said they were
> moved to the inbox. All were yahoo addresses except one from Hans.
> Strange that all his other messages would make it but Google's spam
> filters would catch one.
>
> Is there a punishment too severe for spammers? I think not.
>
> On 04/18/2014 04:00 PM, Mike Schwartz wrote:
>> > I guess Yahoo is treating PLUG as spam.
>>
>> Apparently, so is gmail... (and maybe for similar or "analogous"
>> reasons.)
>> I use gmail [since circa late 2005] and I found this message in my
>> "Junk mail" (or 'spam') folder, there on gmail.
>>
>> I don't keep up with (reading) PLUG-DISCUSS as often as I used to
>> ... but any time I want to, if I really do want to read it, then
>> (no matter) even if the robots are starting to categorize messages
>> like this as "junk" mail -- (a "false positive", IMHO) -- I could
>> always go read the messages on the archive, on the server.
>>
>> > Obviously this message won't reach the people who are being
>> dropped from
>> the list, but [...]
>>
>> I don't think I've been "dropped from the list" [yet], .. but,
>> thanks for the HEADS-UP! :-) !
>>
>> Just my 0.02 ... YMMV ...
>>
>> PS: Regards to many of my old friends -- (whom I probably have not
>> seen / e-mailed, in a long time) --
>> ... from
>> --
>> Mike Schwartz
>> Glendale AZ
>> schwartz at acm.org <mailto:schwartz at acm.org>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:46 PM, keith smith
>> <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com <mailto:klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a Yahoo email account and I got this several hours ago.
>>
>> Your membership in the mailing list PLUG-discuss has been
>> disabled due
>> to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
>> 12-Apr-2014. You will not get any more messages from this
>> list until
>> you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more
>> reminders like
>> this before your membership in the list is deleted.
>>
>> I guess Yahoo is treating PLUG as spam.
>>
>> The newsletter folks like iContact are having to deal with
>> Yahoo, Gmail, HotMail..... etc bouncing emails if the
>> recipient does not open a certain number of emails they signed
>> up to get. Must be a profit thing.
>>
>> I do not read every plug post so maybe that is what happened
>> to me.
>> ------------------------
>> Keith Smith
>> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:56 PM, Brian Cluff
>> <brian at snaptek.com> wrote:
>> Thanks to some changes at yahoo, people that were subscribed
>> to the plug
>> mailing lists and probably wanted to continue to receive PLUG
>> email are
>> dropping off the list like flies due to their messages from
>> the list
>> being rejected.
>>
>> Obviously this message won't reach the people who are being
>> dropped from
>> the list, but if anyone runs into someone that says that
>> haven't been
>> getting new emails, you can tell them that they need to switch
>> providers
>> because yahoo and any other domain that is hosted by yahoo
>> will no
>> longer accept plug emails.
>>
>> I'll try to archive the bounce notifications and if yahoo
>> changes their
>> policy, I'll manually resubscribe anyone that gets dropped.
>> Until then
>> we have to assume that this change is permanent.
>>
>> Brian Cluff
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