Is LibreOffice *THAT* bad? :(

Michael Havens bmike1 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 28 11:06:49 MST 2013


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What is the correct ppa?....

after little fiddling around I found that libreoffice 4.0s ppa would update
so I'm going with that .... unless you guys think 4.0s buggy and I should
install the deb for 4.1.1.2 .

:-)~MIKE~(-:





:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> you are correct.... thanks for telling me!
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Dazed_75 <lthielster at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you missed doing the sudo apt-get update before the install
>> so although the PPA was in the sources list, the local listing of what what
>> is in the repositories had not been updated
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I just added the repository (sudo add-apt-repository
>>> ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-1) (4.1.1 is the most current ppa) and tried
>>> to install it (sudo apt-get install libreoffice) and the response is that
>>> libreoffice is already the newest version. (libreoffice 3.6.2.2)
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Dazed_75 <lthielster at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are many articles about how to get more up to date versions of
>>>> almost any software than you distribution carries in its official
>>>> repositories.  LibreOffice is no different.  One can download it directly
>>>> from the LibreOffice site or you can add a PPA to your software sources.
>>>> There are a few low risk drawbacks to doing so but they are minimal for a
>>>> major piece of software.  Just look at the LibreOffice.org site to see what
>>>> the latest version is or Google the question.
>>>>
>>>> But you could first check what the Software center is offering because
>>>> you 3.6? version is definitely old.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to get synaptic or apt to install a more recent version?
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Brian Cluff <brian at snaptek.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are seeing that, I would encourage you to upgrade.  That is
>>>>>> some basic functionality that is not working for you.  I've never seen such
>>>>>> a basic bug before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/27/2013 02:52 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3.6.2.2
>>>>>>> If I remember correctly it happens sporadically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Brian Cluff <brian at snaptek.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     What version are you using, because I definitely can't reproduce
>>>>>>>     that. If I delete any of the cells, the answer is correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Brian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 09/27/2013 12:53 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         here is a good example... I found if I delete cells that
>>>>>>>         functions are
>>>>>>>         performed on (cell1+cell2=cell3) the total isn't
>>>>>>> recalculated (cell3
>>>>>>>         isn't right).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Paul Mooring <
>>>>>>> paul at opscode.com
>>>>>>>         <mailto:paul at opscode.com>
>>>>>>>         <mailto:paul at opscode.com <mailto:paul at opscode.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              I'm not really much of an office suite user, but my
>>>>>>>         experience and
>>>>>>>              the feedback I've heard has always been yes it is bad
>>>>>>>         compared to MS
>>>>>>>              Office.  I think Libre/Open office covers 90% of use
>>>>>>> cases
>>>>>>>         and is
>>>>>>>              more than capable of handling what most users need,
>>>>>>> however
>>>>>>>         it's
>>>>>>>              interface isn't nearly as good, it lacks the vbscript
>>>>>>>         macros the
>>>>>>>              rest of the world uses, it's charting/graphs don't look
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>         nice and
>>>>>>>              formatting comes out mangled when excel users open it
>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>         when you
>>>>>>>              open an xlsx).  Microsoft has invested a lot of time,
>>>>>>> money and
>>>>>>>              energy into getting Excel just right and it really is a
>>>>>>>         great (if
>>>>>>>              not their best) product.  The heavy excel users I know
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>         don't
>>>>>>>              run Windows keep a Win7 VM around for Office/Excel use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              As a side note I think one thing that the Linux/FLOSS
>>>>>>>         community is
>>>>>>>              very bad at is learning from what others get right.  You
>>>>>>>         might not
>>>>>>>              like Microsoft but to claim their popularity was in no
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>         due to
>>>>>>>              making some good products is disingenuous at best.  If
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>              genuinely care about increasing Linux desktop usage
>>>>>>> (which
>>>>>>>         is not of
>>>>>>>              any particular interest to me personally) the right
>>>>>>>         questions to ask
>>>>>>>              are about what MS and Apple get right rather than what
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>         get wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM, <
>>>>>>> kitepilot at kitepilot.com
>>>>>>>         <mailto:kitepilot at kitepilot.**com <kitepilot at kitepilot.com>>
>>>>>>>              <mailto:kitepilot at kitepilot.__**com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         <mailto:kitepilot at kitepilot.**com <kitepilot at kitepilot.com>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                  So I talked my brother into ditching Micro$haft and
>>>>>>>         moving to Linux.
>>>>>>>                  Baaaad idea...
>>>>>>>                  The man uses Excel *HEAVILY*, and LibreOffice just
>>>>>>>         could not
>>>>>>>                  keep up.
>>>>>>>                  But it was not lack of features or limitations, it
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>         *STUPID*
>>>>>>>                  (but dangerous) things like cells not showing the
>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>         value
>>>>>>>                  and/or recalculating wrong.
>>>>>>>                  I didn't take his word for it, he showed me the
>>>>>>>         (unbelievable)
>>>>>>>                  problems (I could not believe what I was seeing).
>>>>>>>                  The guy is back to Excel...
>>>>>>>                  What am I missing?
>>>>>>>                  ET
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