Take my Money... I do not understand people who fight for big Gov.
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Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 5/7/13, Bryan O'Neal <Bryan.ONeal at TheONealAndAssociates.com> wrote:
From: Bryan O'Neal <Bryan.ONeal at TheONealAndAssociates.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 11:53 PM
Or - god forbid - use a cart provider that hooks directly into people like Outright who does all of your accounting for you automatically! That is something they are working on. So is intuit. So are a number of hosting providers. I would not be surprised if godaddy, hostgator, rackspace, shopify, etc. all have this fixed and part of their standard offering inside six months after it is law. So if some states (like california) hit you with a notice you will have to upload your CSV file to there tax calculator separately. Up your prices by the max tax you anticipate after receiving notice and pocket the difference If you customers turn to brick and mortar or companies who are not collecting tax well, I again question what you are doing. Brick and mortar usually has higher overhead, and the legal risk will likely shut down the other sites soon enough...
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:06 PM, George Toft <george at georgetoft.com> wrote:
What if . . .
. . . this bill (if it becomes a law) forces people to sell on
Amazon? I sell on Amazon and I let them take care of the sales
taxes. I hate the commission, but that's the price I pay for
leveraging Amazon's market presence and taking care of the
administrivia for me. The end result is I sell all over the
country and Amazon takes care of the state sales taxes.
I see this bill as an end to the small-timer and a shot in the arm
for the big companies.
As far as filling out the forms and reporting goes - I found
filling out just one form (for AZ) a PITA and stopped selling
locally. I can't imagine doing it for 9600 (ebay's count)
municipalities.
Regards,
George Toft
On 5/7/2013 6:16 PM, keith smith wrote:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-113s743es/pdf/BILLS-113s743es.pdf
Yes, it requires taxes be paid to the state, however it
does speak of rate changes at the local level. It is a
poorly written bill and it leaves the merchant in a
position of needing to comply at the actual jurisdiction
level. In other words it will require collecting
differing tax rates within a state based on location and
the local taxing authority. There will be compliance
issue. If you have ever collected sales tax you can get
the jest of it, however on a much grander level.
The bill talks about software. What language? What OS?
What if I have everything in PHP on the web and I only run
Linux or Apple and the software is compiled to run on M$
only? How to I interface this with my shopping cart?
Basically this is a bill written by people who have never
been in business and who could care less about us in the
trenches.
For me this is a substantial issue that could cause me to
lose a client that could very well sell off because
compliance is going to be a nightmare.
Read the bill, it is very vague and leave everything to
the states. I see 50 different sets of compliance. I see
the requirement to have a tax license in every state.
Even if they only charge $30 for a license that is $1500
and what about all the time to contact each state, and
complete all the docs they require. Yikes. It could take
weeks just to acquire all the licenses.
Then what about all the reporting on a monthly basis.
This will be a huge burden.
Please read the bill and assure me I am wrong, because I
want to be wrong in this area.
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Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 5/7/13, Dazed_75 <lthielster at gmail.com>
wrote:
From: Dazed_75 <lthielster at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S.
Senate
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
<plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 5:11 PM
I am reasonably sure this is only at
the state level. Has anyone actually read it to
verify is local is included somewhere?
On Tue, May 7,
2013 at 4:23 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
I assume form what I am reading that one
will have to have a sales license in
each state and collect sales tax based
on local and report that to the state
and give the money to the state. They
state would then disburse the money.
I further assume the online retailer
would be subject to audit by any one of
the taxing authorities.
The audits could be worse than
collecting and reporting the tax.
About two weeks ago I wrote an article
about online sales tax : http://www.netcodeman.com/news/internet-retail-sales-tax-and-how-it-may-effect-the-online-retailer/
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Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 5/7/13, Gilbert T.
Gutierrez, Jr. <mailing-lists at phoenixinternet.net>
wrote:
From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. <mailing-lists at phoenixinternet.net>
Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax
Passes the U.S. Senate
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 3:22 PM
Taxes are a pain. I
believe it will probably be
taxing only to the state
level, and not county and
city. I do not know how this
would work. Do you have to
register your tax id in
every state? File paperwork
in every state? How do
states know that you have
made transactions within
their borders? This seems
like it would be a
logistical nightmare. I
remember when I had an
operation in TX, that was a
headache and a half. I
cannot image nationally.
Gilbert
On 5/7/2013 8:48 AM, keith
smith wrote:
The U.S. Senate
passed the Internet
Sales Tax Bill.
Jeff Flake's office
says he voted
against it and John
McCain's office said
he voted FOR it.
It is being reported
there in some 9,600
taxing authorities
in the U.S. Add to
that 560 or so
Indian tribe taxing
authorities. That is
over 10,000 taxing
authorities.
Yikes!! Any company
with 1 million in
sales will be
required to comply.
I can tell you that
a company that has 1
million in sales is
not a big company.
That online retailer
might consist of 2
or 3 employees with
some additional help
from a number of
consultants and
potentially a
fulfillment center.
From first hand
experience, I would
say this law, if
passed by the U.S.
House, will cause a
bunch of small
online retailers to
either go out of
business or reduce
sales through
raising prices or
some other method.
This may very well
play out like
ObamaCare where
companies are
reducing the hours
of their employees
so they have less
than 50 full-time
employees. In
other words we will
experience the
unintended
consequences of
these laws.
These polices effect
each of us.
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