OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger...

Michael Butash michael at butash.net
Thu Jun 6 16:23:01 MST 2013


This really isn't anything new or surprising if you work at or around 
isp's - providers have been giving raw optical tap data from internet 
peering to government sniffers the likes of Procera Networks and various 
others for most of the last decade for ready harvesting on a whim.  This 
amounts to a snapshot of mostly "everything" that crosses their edge to 
peering, which is 99% of our traffic they transport.

Companies like Verizon, Sprint, and ATT monetize and charge the 
government for data dips of your traffic even as a profit center as an 
'admin" charge.  Convenient arrangement, and you pay them for the 
privilege of carrying your data to be sold.

The only difference between China and US is we allow the traffic through 
by default and monitor everything vs China denying explicitly everything 
and allowing only specific protocols + monitoring everything.  At least 
they don't hide it under the guise of "freedom" as our gov does.

-mb


On 06/06/2013 03:24 PM, Eric Cope wrote:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html
>
> wow, just wow.
>
> Eric
>
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