First Job

[Michael Havens]

you say recode all the man pages.... may I recommend you recode the basic
ones and the ones you use. Then you could post something on a seeing
impaired board saying if any one has the need of this for a certain man
page they email you (or something like that).

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:07 PM, eric oyen <eric.oyen at gmail.com> wrote:

> such ideas are often born of necessity. In my case, I need to be able to
> read man pages and they don't quite read right with a screen reader.
>
> -eric
>
> On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> > that is a great idea! I wish I could have such brilliant ideas.....
> >
> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, eric oyen <eric.oyen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I know what I should do… Recode all the man pages so that they are
> easier
> >> to read in braille. right now, trying to read a man page in braille is
> an
> >> exercise in frustration. the terminal window has that stupid bar at the
> >> bottom that makes reading sequentially nearly impossible without having
> to
> >> back scroll and then read more. from that point.
> >>
> >> The biggest problem I am seeing right now is that a man page editor
> >> included with most standard installs of Linux just isn't very
> accessible.
> >>
> >> Anyway, thats my take on a project I should do. It will be something to
> do
> >> while I am looking for work.
> >>
> >> -eric
> >>
> >> On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Mark Phillips wrote:
> >>
> >>> An additional thought. Once you find your programming passion, look
> >> around
> >>> for an opensource project that interests you. Spend some time helping
> out
> >>> on that project to hone your skills. There will be mentors there as
> well.
> >>> You may have to try a couple of projects to find a community that you
> >> like.
> >>> With a little hands on experience on one or more projects, you will at
> >> the
> >>> very least, have some real world development challenges/solutions to
> talk
> >>> about in an interview, something to put on your resume, and code your
> >>> potential employer can look at.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck!
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:07 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Since I started paying attention in about 1983, there has been an
> >>>> overwhelming demand for developers.  However the other side of this
> >> coin is
> >>>> gaining entry.  For me finding that door was not easy.
> >>>>
> >>>> One thing life has tough me is most employers are looking for skills
> >> and a
> >>>> track record, even for the entry level position.
> >>>>
> >>>> My suggestion is first to determine what your passion about.  Then
> learn
> >>>> it and do something on your own.  You might want to find a mentor who
> >> has
> >>>> experience in that area.  The mentor can guide you in what you will
> >> need to
> >>>> know to be entry level and what types of things you might do to show
> you
> >>>> have at least entry level skills.
> >>>>
> >>>> Once you have decent skills you may want to keep your day job and
> start
> >>>> doing side projects until the demand for your side projects over takes
> >> your
> >>>> day job.  This may be counter indicated for trying to find a job.  I
> do
> >> not
> >>>> know this for a fact, however I hear some or most employers do not
> like
> >>>> those who are entrepreneurial. However if you would like to be on your
> >> won
> >>>> this is a good plan.
> >>>>
> >>>> If working for yourself is not for you, then you might start
> contacting
> >>>> hiring managers and pitch yourself.  This will allow you to learn
> about
> >> the
> >>>> demand and what it takes to get one of those jobs.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------
> >>>> Keith Smith
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> *From:* Trent Shipley <trent_shipley at yahoo.com>
> >>>> *To:* "plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org" <
> >> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>;
> >>>> AzIPA <azipa at yahoogroups.com>
> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 5:48 PM
> >>>> *Subject:* First Job
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like a very entry level job in programming or in reporting.
>  I'm
> >>>> not worried about the offshore competition.  The advertisements say
> that
> >>>> after 5 years you make 60-80 K as a programmer.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a degree in mathematics from 1989, a Master of Science in
> >>>> Information Management (from 2009), and more semesters than not I
> take a
> >>>> computer course at the community college.  I recently finished two
> >>>> semesters of C#.  I've take CS 205 in Java, but that was over 8 years
> >> ago.
> >>>> I just finished the first semester of Java.  I am now taking SQL
> Server.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am  working on a Certificate of Completion in Programming at Rio
> >> Salado
> >>>> Community College.
> >>>>
> >>>> Unfortunately, the ads tend to ask for a 4 years Computer Science
> degree
> >>>> and a year of experience (presumably as an intern or employed in your
> >> field
> >>>> while still a student.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, I make in the low 40's with good benefits as an administrative
> >>>> assistant, and it looks like entry level jobs don't come close.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do I have a chance without leaving Phoenix?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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