About Michael Havens, the list and the people...

[Michael Havens]

That's  me: jump first, ask later :!) I remember when I first put linux on
my computer.... because I had a wim-modem the modem didn't work and I
couldn't (and no one told me) for like a month. When the problem was
reveled I bought a modem. The first question I asked PLUG was about what a
command did and the response I got was simple. The replier said, 'man
<command>''. Unfortunately I didn't know that 'man' was a command so I sat
thee befuddled. About a month later, I took the computer to the school
Brian is the IT guy for and Hans was gracious enough to take Linux off of
the computer. About a month after that I guess I was missing the real
computer feeling so I reinstalled linux. About a year later I uninstalled
Windows because I was never booting into it. Fast forward a bunch of years
to '08 and I moved to florida. I threw out all of my computer equipment (it
was ancient) and moved with a laptop with XP on it. After my year-long
excursion to Fort Lauderdale I moved back to Arizona and PLUG welcomed me
back with open arms! I have no money now so two plugers were so caring that
they donated a computer and a monitor and my dad donated a printer. Man....
I am so grateful. The generosity of you guys is so amazing. So we network
the linux box, my brothers XP, the laptop, and the printer and everything
is cool until my estranged wife and I decide I should move to Peru to fix
our marriage. After 4 months there she decides I need to come back to the
US so I do and I finally realize (after 4 years) she abandoned me when she
returned to Peru a year after we married and that she has just been
stringing me along. Anyways, while in Peru my XP stopped working from when
she spilled wine into it like 6 months before so I was computer-less at
that time. So when I get back to the US everything is good for like 2 weeks
until the hard drive on the computer crashes and I have to get another. So
we network everything back together again except this time my brothers
computer won't print (hmmmm),  Anyways, then a for christmas my parents got
me a computer with win7 on it. I kept 7 and figured I would keep it
until viruses infected it. But after a week or so I was missing linux so I
put LinuxMint on it. That, my friends, is my Linux story.
:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:

> I do not always answer, and sometimes i do feel there is a lack of
> research as well. but i for one would not discourage him from asking
> questions of the list. and ironically his questions help me learn more on
> my own either out of curiosity or simply observing the thread go by.
>
> Either way he is a good sort and has indeed jumped in with both feet into
> a new and sometimes unforgiving OS and has come a long way.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Eric Cope <eric.cope at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Those are really good points Enrique.
>>
>> An important step in the learning process is go from watching to doing.
>> May I recommend that Michael *try* researching, then post his question
>> along with what he has found and why he thinks his results are not his
>> answer, or does not understand the results?
>>
>> We all got started somewhere, so I respect the questions, I myself ask
>> questions as well. I also respect the group enough to at least try to find
>> the answer on my own.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:50 AM, kitepilot at kitepilot.com <
>> kitepilot at kitepilot.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello List:
>>> I am very well aware that Michael sometimes don't pose the most
>>> challenging questions and sometimes shows a total lack of previous
>>> research.
>>> I am also *VERY* well aware of how hard Michael is trying to learn and
>>> better himself.
>>> As a lifelong teacher (even though I don't make a living as one), I have
>>> found over the years people that go after knowledge and people that wait
>>> for knowledge to be brought to them.
>>> I have found people that picks up new ideas like sponges and people that
>>> seem to have a wall for learning.
>>> That is valid for anything that I have taught semi-professionally, which
>>> spans from hang-gliding to computer science, snowboarding and pilot
>>> training.
>>> This is what I have found about Michael:
>>> 1.-  Michael *IS* going after knowledge.
>>> 2.-  Michael *HAS* difficulties to acquire knowledge.
>>> I believe, as some people has expressed here, that Michael is a valuable
>>> member here because he represents the kind of people that needs the most
>>> help.  I also believe that nobody here should be judging Mike for his
>>> ability (or lack of) to gain knowledge.
>>> I agree that you are free to block Mike if you wish, but I disagree with
>>> anyone publicly stating 'Mike is so dumb that we should kick him out'
>>> because that express and undeserved and ignorant judgement and narrows the
>>> limits of those willing to participate in this list.
>>> I don't block Mike, although I don't always answer.
>>> And I have the utmost respect for him.
>>> Mike, please don't leave this list.
>>> Enrique A. Troconis
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> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>
> Stephen
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