About Michael Havens, the list and the people...

[Dazed_75]

Good thoughts all.  My feeling is that Mike has come a long way from where
he started and explores many things that most folks would never touch.

It is amazing to me that he does some of the projects he tackles and still
asks so many "simple" questions.  I may not answer as many of those as a I
should but there are also questions he asks that I cannot answer even if I
do some researching.  So I do learn from some of his threads if I follow
them through to an answer.  And that is what it is all about.

Oh, and one thing Mike does that I wish more people would do is to usually
post the solution even when he finds it himself or as a result of an answer
that someone gave.

I do sometimes wonder if there are people who object just because Mike is
the most prolific user of this list.  Good on you Mike.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:29 AM, James Finstrom <
jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:

> The point of a LUG is to get people interested in Linux and build skills.
> This is why you have install days etc.  I work daily with people who don't
> want to use Linux but have to on their servers. Linux is an acquired taste
> for some. My wife and kids had to be taught to love it after my 5th time
> reinstalling their computer because they hosed windows.
>
> Google is like common sense. Everyone has access and should contain a
> small amount of knowledge in using it. Fact a good chunk of my day is spent
> working as a google proxy for others. People lack common sense and the
> ability to type a few words in to google. The flip side of that is knowing
> how to read results. Sometimes the first, second forth page of google is
> irreverent or is the 1200th person asking a question and no one has an
> answer.  I consider my self a professional google user. It is 1/2 my world.
> I have recently started burrowing in to python and some things (yum) are
> documented by a 3 year old or not at all so you have to turn to other
> resources. I am happy to say even when I ask something I know is reaaaaaaly
> dumb the python folks have been pretty awesome to me.
>
> tl;dr  Lugs try to attract people, these people likely know nothing,
> asking a community like this sometimes yields higher quality results than
> searching.  You should be happy they asked rather than moving on, teach
> them to fish.
> tl;dr for tl;dr Be excellent to each other.
>
>
>
> James Finstrom
>
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> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Carruth, Rusty <
> Rusty.Carruth at smartstoragesys.com> wrote:
>
>> As much as I hate 'me too' replies, in this case I think its warranted,
>> so here goes:
>>
>> Well said, thanks!
>>
>> Rusty
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > ....
>> >
>> > I agree that you are free to block Mike if you wish, but I disagree
>> > with anyone publicly stating 'Mike is so dumb that we should kick him
>> > out'
>> > because that express and undeserved and ignorant judgement and narrows
>> > the limits of those willing to participate in this list.
>> >
>> > I don't block Mike, although I don't always answer.
>> > And I have the utmost respect for him.
>> > Mike, please don't leave this list.
>> > Enrique A. Troconis
>>
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