About Michael Havens, the list and the people...

[kitepilot at kitepilot.com]

Hello List: 

I am very well aware that Michael sometimes don't pose the most challenging 
questions and sometimes shows a total lack of previous research. 

I am also *VERY* well aware of how hard Michael is trying to learn and 
better himself. 

As a lifelong teacher (even though I don't make a living as one), I have 
found over the years people that go after knowledge and people that wait for 
knowledge to be brought to them. 

I have found people that picks up new ideas like sponges and people that 
seem to have a wall for learning. 

That is valid for anything that I have taught semi-professionally, which 
spans from hang-gliding to computer science, snowboarding and pilot 
training. 

This is what I have found about Michael:
1.-  Michael *IS* going after knowledge.
2.-  Michael *HAS* difficulties to acquire knowledge. 

I believe, as some people has expressed here, that Michael is a valuable 
member here because he represents the kind of people that needs the most 
help.  I also believe that nobody here should be judging Mike for his 
ability (or lack of) to gain knowledge. 

I agree that you are free to block Mike if you wish, but I disagree with 
anyone publicly stating 'Mike is so dumb that we should kick him out' 
because that express and undeserved and ignorant judgement and narrows the 
limits of those willing to participate in this list. 

I don't block Mike, although I don't always answer.
And I have the utmost respect for him.
Mike, please don't leave this list.
Enrique A. Troconis