ot Online school

[Michael Butash]

Just FYI, consulting and being around random shops with customer and 
vendor docs, I find a lot of the .pptx, docx, or xlsx files are spotty 
at best what works under linux, what works sanely (complex 
forumlas==poop), and what just crashes openoffice.  Libreoffice is 
almost useless with the new formats, as the dev's don't feel they need 
to support microsoft's continued forced incompatibility with everyone 
else on purpose (can't blame them either).  Obviously M$ doesn't care, 
as most people just keep buying office when microsoft tells them to 
every few years to stay "compatible" with their own poop.

I keep an xp vm in virtualbox for this reason at all times, generally 
with real office (well, as real as usenet gets for clean slipstream 
install images), just to make sure if I *have* to resort to exporting 
from it to something I can use (2000-03 compat office formats). 
Seamless mode under linux i found finally works decently, reduces the 
sting of using windows significantly and hides it to keep my linux 
desktop cred.  ;)

Likewise creating complex formatted docs are horribly incompatible 
usually under real m$office from libre/openoffice, so export as pdf is 
your friend when passing back and forth to windoze users.

Really sucks it has to be this way - thanks microsoft.

-mb


On 08/08/2012 11:28 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> Its cool.... I was surprised they specified an OS as well.  but the
> university of Minnesota seems more willing to work with me. This is what
> they said (in part):
>
> Firefox or Chrome for Linux should work fine for Moodle. Open Office for
> Linux saves as Word and in other MS compatible formats. We also have
> Google Docs as a University implementation so you can use those online
> apps.
>
> As long as you can view the following types of files you should be able
> to access most anything in the courses:
>
>   * Video
>       o .mp4, .wmv, Flash (flv or swf),
>   * Word Processing
>       o .docx, .doc (may require a document viewer for .docx)
>   * PowerPoint
>       o .pptx, .ppt (may require a document viewer for .pptx)
>   * PDF
>   * Excel
>       o occasionally .xlst, .xls
>   * Web browser (Chrome or Firefox may be the best choices, you are
>     welcome to try others)
>
> As Mark mentions, the only course we have that is geared specifically to
> a Microsoft product is Spreadsheets (CA 1020) but if you want to take
> that course and can accomplish the tasks without the Windows based
> interface tutorials and save the files as .xls, we'll get you into the
> section (different instructors) where you will not be required to use MS
> Office.
> SO I think I'll be paying them for my degree!
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Harold Wong <Harold.Wong at microsoft.com
> <mailto:Harold.Wong at microsoft.com>> wrote:
>
>     I’m surprised that the online school is requiring you to run a
>     specific OS.  With that said, if you really need Windows 7 for
>     school and want to continue to use Linux as your main OS, I would
>     recommend virtualizing it as that would be much simpler.____
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>     *Subject:* Re: ot Online school____
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>     Not to be fatalistic, but you're probably going to have a hard time
>     finding a university that isn't very MS-happy.____
>
>     __ __
>
>     Installing on an external hard drive is problematic at best. I'm
>     pretty sure Windows protects against that. Licensing/piracy reasons.____
>
>     On 8 August 2012 10:56, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>> wrote:____
>
>     they want $305/credit hour. Is that the going rate for a University
>     now a days? I think I'm going to go with a school that isn't so in
>     bed with MS. UMN is  not in bed with em.____
>
>     or else.... coulde I out it on an external HD?
>     :-)~MIKE~(-:____
>
>
>
>     ____
>
>     On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com
>     <mailto:cryptworks at gmail.com>> wrote:____
>
>     the pert i left out is if you install windows to the drive that has
>     Linux on it. even if you re-size the drives to make space it will
>     overwrite grub, and you will need to re-install and reconfigure it.
>     alternative install win7 in KVM or virtualbox.____
>
>
>
>     On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com
>     <mailto:cryptworks at gmail.com>> wrote:
>      > well personally if you can just install to a new drive then you can
>      > have it pristine and configure grub...
>      >
>      >
>      > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>      >> I need to put 7  back on my computer for school. How do you do
>     it w/o
>      >> blowing everything else away (ie on another partition). I also
>     need to
>      >> repartition. How big does it need to be for 7?
>      >> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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