The devil you know

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   1. Re: The devil you know (S Kreimeyer)
   2. Re: The devil you know (Nathan England)
   3. Re: The devil you know (Dan Lund)
   4. Re: Mailing list for Fedora RPM updates (Shawn Badger)
   5. Re: The devil you know (Kevin Fries)
   6. Re: The devil you know (Matt Graham)
   7. Re: The devil you know (Nathan England)
   8. Re: The devil you know (Brian Cluff)
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Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:17:52 -0700
From: S Kreimeyer <skreimey at gmail.com>
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Subject: Re: The devil you know
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You should make a Tiny Core Linux partition. It would be  a fun
project : )
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/

On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 11:16 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:

> I would agree with Mike though I might not limit Ubuntu much in disk
> space.  I say that just because if you find something you like better,
> you may well just replace Ubuntu with it.
> 
> BTW, if you are not aware of it, a great many distros in the Debian
> family are Ubuntu derivatives like Mint is (thugh they now have a
> straight Debian derivative as well).  For that matter, Debian itself
> may be a viable alternative for you.  With Ubuntu moving to Unity and
> Debian to Gnome 3, it will make an interesting difference.
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mike Ballon <mike.ballon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>         In your situation I would stick with Ubuntu, but only use say
>         of the hard disk for the install. Then load virtualbox to play
>         with several other distros like Mint (my current), decide if
>         you like any of them more than Ubuntu, and then install that
>         one onto the free space you left open.
>         
>         
>         
>         Or if you don't want to partition your drive for some reason,
>         test the other distros on your old laptop and go from there.
>         
>          
>         
>         
>         On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:23 AM, James Finstrom
>         <jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>         
>                 It was a dark stormy night in 2005. A stranger in a
>                 trench coat approached and handed me a CD. I no longer
>                 had to fight the benign little issues nor did I have
>                 to put any effort in to make my laptop run Linux. Alas
>                 I have been using derivatives of Ubuntu ever since. I
>                 used Kbuntu for years then they decided to move to KDE
>                 4 which lacked my ability to like it. I switched over
>                 to gnome and we have become good friends. Ok lets get
>                 to the point. I am getting a new laptop today and I am
>                 debating of weather I should stick with Ubuntu who has
>                 never done me wrong or do I try something new.  I have
>                 no issues from a technical or moral standpoint with
>                 Ubuntu and am happy to use it until I do. That being
>                 said It has been almost 6 years and there have been
>                 many new distros born and old ones brought up to par
>                 so I would like feed back. I do wish to stay in the
>                 Debian family tree but outside of that I am open to
>                 suggestions. 
>                 
>                 -- 
>                 James Finstrom

When I first started with Linux in 2003, I tried quite a few distros before settling on Debian. Some were RPM based, some were just geared toward those new to Linux. In the final analysis Debian for me at the time had easy package management, and quite a few choices available for software that were easy to find. Most places if you went "outside" of the Debian repos right off had a .deb available. 

These things still are in the Debian philosophy and it actually has become even easier to install than in the Potatoe days. However, I also because I usually had a few machines in use would try numerous other distros. Libranet was a favorite until the owner passed away and his son did not want to continue the distro even though the community totally volunteered to continue the Libranet philosophy. I came though to find in my eyes the "extra" effort and patching of software to sometimes bite you in the ass. One major security screwup was the entropy for SSL and some other mis-steps put me looking again for something not so hacked on. 

I started with sidux and then moved onto to ArchLinux and Slackware. I ended up coming back to Arch because it not only had the freedom of the package managers but without too much effort there is freedom to use 3rd party apps and compile them quite quickly on your particular machine. The basically only make a PKGBUILD and compile for the core apps and then you can use AUR which heavily pulls in software from Sourceforge. Whether an admin uses the meta packing or individually pieces their installation together it is easy to undo if necessary. Arch NEVER clobbers a configuration file. Major important factor towards sanity and maintaining your equipment. 

In the past 3-4 years I have tried other distros but came back to Arch for the above reasons. Their IRC as a special note is quite helpful and lacking in bad attitudes/pride like other distros I have used. If you are ready to get your hands a little dirtier and have solid equipment for a rolling release distro. I would say give ArchLinux a try.

I just rebuilt my Zotac mini itx computer so it runs on 64bit now. It's sweet.

gk

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