DefCon for kids

[Eric Cope]

There was a book published with the last few years talking about adolescent decision making. Adolescents have different value systems making their decisions look poor from adults point of view, but actually quite rational. It's was titled "the case against adolescence". 

Eric

On Jun 28, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com> wrote:

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> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Lee Reynolds <Lee.Reynolds at asu.edu> wrote:
> > The human brain doesn't recognize consequences until age 25?
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> > That sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me, the kind of stuff that is used to make excuses for adults acting like overgrown adolescents.  Perhaps the issue is not a matter of neurological development, but a matter of parents allowing their grown children to persist in a child-like state until they are almost 30.  I'm only 38 myself, but I do remember the days when growing up meant you grew up.  Maybe you went off to college, maybe you joined the military, maybe you lived with your folks but paid serious rent while attending college close to home.  But whatever you did, you were expected to be an adult, not a child.  Today many people in their early 20's are still living with mom and dad as if high school never ended.  Allowing someone to persist in that kind of a cocoon is a great way to wind up with someone who at first glance does not appear to understand consequences, when in truth they've simply never had to function in life as a normal adult.
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> I am not sure if it would be called "junk" but it's neuroscience backed up by long behavioral studies and statistics, as well as imaging.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us on behalf of Kevin Brown
> > Sent: Tue 6/28/2011 5:17 PM
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> > Subject: Re: DefCon for kids
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> >>> Sounds like Cathy's daughter is the perfect person for DefCon according to
> >>> Chris' "Why is DefCon like sudoku?" presentation earlier this month.
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> >>> http://mychildssuitcase.blogspot.com/2011/06/channelling-energy-of-geeky-techy-kids.html
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> >> There is a good deal of material presented at DefCon that gives
> >> credence and lip service to breaking laws without consequences.  Youth
> >> are already at a disadvantage since the human brain does not recognize
> >> consequences until around 25 years old, while being required to be
> >> accountable since the age of 18.
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> > This sounds like junk science. Kids as young as 2 and 3 lie to avoid
> > getting into trouble which suggests they understand consequences for
> > their actions.
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> >> I would carefully counsel your daughters and sons about some of what
> >> is presented, the current state of government surveillance in America,
> >> and exactly where and when they have encroached private property and
> >> consequences.   A good example is the back page of 2600 magazine where
> >> jail inmates are given free classified space to write desperately for
> >> penpals from jail for such crimes.
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