OT - Explaining periods of unemployment on an application

[Tim Bogart]

I like your response.  At a company with which I worked for many years, many 
years ago used to send me email on a daily basis listing folks who had been 
terminated.  Of those, many were terminated because of falsehoods on their 
applications.  And of those, not nearly, but ALL were due to information omitted 
regarding some crime that the individual had committed.  And they ran the gambit 
from robbery to murder.  Yes, murder, believe it or not. But in fairness, of 
those, they involved folks who had been tried for murder and had been exonerated 
by some means (found not guilty, thrown out due to mistrial or other reasons) 
but the point is that they had concealed the facts regarding criminal activities 
(I mean seriously, how can you forget to list something like that, or how can 
you think it somehow doesn't qualify as something a potential employer would not 
be interested?) that are easily checked.

Tim B.

I'm sticking with Grandpa Jones here...
"True is stranger than fact."
Hee-Haw


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From: AZ Pete <subs2 at cactusfamily.com>
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 2:18:38 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Explaining periods of unemployment on an application

It is generally best not to "stretch the truth" on an application, but if you 
feel you must in order to get the job that's your decision.

But understand that it is *extraordinarily* rare these days that a company will 
fire you because they found out later that you lied on your application. If they 
want to fire you they have the right to do so without cause (in AZ anyway). 
They'll be able to come up with a dozen legitimate reasons to dismiss an 
employee without having to go through the hassle of checking all the info on an 
application months or years after the fact.

Lying on a application was much more of a risk when you could lose years of 
pension benefits as a result. But that's not so much of an issue these days.

Just my 2 cents

Interesting about the farm animal guy. Must have been a gov't job. :)

Peter

Tim Bogart wrote: 
This is the advice I seem to be most comfortable with, even though it may not be 
the most productive.  I'm treating it like an application for a security 
clearance.  I have experience with a gentleman who on an application for a 
security clearance described some unsavory activities that involved some farm 
animals (no, I'm not going to go into specifics, but you can probably use your 
imagination and come up with a scenerio that will encompass the activitity, even 
though it may make you whince) and wound up GETTING THE CLEARANCE!  In such 
situations, HONESTY is the most important factor.
>
>
>Whodathunkit?
>
>
>Tim
>
>
>"True is stranger than fact."
>Grandpa Jones
>Hee-Haw
>
>
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From: Eric Shubert<ejs at shubes.net>
>To: plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 1:55:08 PM
>Subject: Re: OT - Explaining periods of unemployment on an application
>
>Good luck with this, Tim.
>
>I would advise not "stretching the truth" on the application. If anything on 
>your application is found to be false later on, it could be grounds for 
>dismissal regardless of the significance of the falsehood.
>
>-- -Eric 'shubes'
>
>Tim Bogart wrote:
>> Just as an aside to everybody, 
>> I was interviewed on Wednesday of last week.  The interview was not in 
>>Phoenix.  They flew me to the interview site, put me up in a hotel overnight, 
>>and I interviewed the next day.  Then, this past Monday, I got an email from 
>>them that began like this... 
>>
>> "Tim, Good day to you:
>> 
>> You should have received an email requesting you fill out an official employee 
>>application. Once you get this,  We would like to move forward with an offer for 
>>you but can not until this step is complete:"
>> 
>> Certain portions were edited out to conserve the name of the employer.
>> 
>> I guess I can still be eliminated depending what's on the application.  But I 
>>am very excited about this, nonetheless.
>> 
>> Wish me luck.
>> 
>> Respectfully,
>> 
>> Tim B.
>> /
>> /
>> /"It's all good!"/
>> 
>> 
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