ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

[Joshua Zeidner]

  Thats not really deflation... you have to consider purchasing power
overseas, etc. which is a function of money supply, interest rates, and
other factors.  That's just reducing size of government, which I'm in favor
of.  Real deflation is simply not possible.  I think we bought a one way
ticket to financial disaster I'm sad to say.

  -jmz


On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:18 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> We are definitely in a pickle.  Maybe it is not as pure as just this simple
> one item however if my tax burden was reduced by 25% then I would be able to
> live on 25% less.  Isn't that a deflation?
>
> The national debt is a real problem.  We need to get control of our country
> and where it is going!
>
>
> ------------------------
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 4:13 PM
>
>
>
>
>   you might see some kind of short term deflation, but any substantial
> deflation would break us.  Any time you have debt, then deflation makes that
> debt harder to pay.  Not only would it be tragic for Americans on a personal
> level, but on a state and federal level it would be equally disastrous.  eg.
> What would happen if everyone's salary were halved next week?  Massive
> default on mortgages, housing inventory increases, values go down, etc.  I
> would think that deflation might be beneficial, I just don't think its an
> option (either financially or politically).  Most likely they will just
> print their way out of this, and destroy the dollar in the process.
>
>   -jmz
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:06 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> I think if taxes were reduced by 25% or even 50% we would see deflation.
>> We need to deflate.
>>
>> ------------------------
>> Keith Smith
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=jjzeidner@gmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=jjzeidner@gmail.com>
>> >
>>
>> Subject: Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us<http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>> >
>> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 3:58 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   In a deflation scenario, the dollar would buy a lot of code, but it
>> would also bankrupt just about anyone with a mortgage or any other kind of
>> debt.  Remember deflated dollars are harder to come by.
>>
>>   -jmz
>>
>>
>>
>>   -
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Maybe..... What if we were to go into deflation?  Wouldn't that help?
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Keith Smith
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, R P Herrold <herrold at owlriver.com<http://mc/compose?to=herrold@owlriver.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: R P Herrold <herrold at owlriver.com<http://mc/compose?to=herrold@owlriver.com>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us<http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>> >
>>> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 3:01 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 May 2010, keith smith wrote:
>>>
>>> > I sure hope outsourcing becomes null and void.  What do you base this
>>> > on?
>>>
>>> >> earlier, Joshua Zeidner:
>>> >>   Clearly they are doing it for symbolic purposes... which is why we
>>> should do it right back to them.  Apple products are overpriced and
>>> overpromoted anyway.  They are a California based company but they certainly
>>> do most of  their work overseas.  The way things are currently going the
>>> outsourcing equation will change, and possibly become invalid.
>>>
>>> This looks like wishful thinking. The outsourcing/offshoring
>>> genie is out of the bottle, and nothing is going to put it back
>>>
>>> -- Russ herrold
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
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