request you top post please

Technomage_Hawke technomage.hawke at gmail.com
Fri Aug 13 12:07:00 MST 2010


I use VoiceOver in OS X these days. I don't have linux on a stand-alone machine to do that currently. 

I have tried orca in a virtualbox session, but found it a little choppy (VM problems).

On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Ed wrote:

> Technomage, you might try a dedicated command line news reader to
> better consume PLUG emails in audio - ask Dennis about some of the
> alternatives.
> do you use Emacs for your speech tool?
> The reason for bottom posting is made at the bottom of this email -
> you can skip that.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Phillips
> <mark at phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>> How does one get gmail to "prune the excess"? I have tried highlighting just
>> the lines I want to quote and then clicking on reply, but I get the entire
>> message and all the history. Do I have to manually delete all the lines I
>> don't want in each reply?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This Has been turned into a heated debate twice here since i was on
>>> list, I prefer top post with relevant information added below, trimmed
>>> if excessive. But thats just me.
>>> 
>>> there are many on list that would heatedly argue for a bottom post so
>>> they have the history first. who knows. I have liked how Gmail can
>>> prune the excess for me.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:12 PM, John <jharitos at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> I like top posting myself but some lists will run you off for top
>>>> posting so I just bottom post to be on the safe side.
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Technomage_Hawke <technomage.hawke at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Technomage_Hawke <technomage.hawke at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: request you top post please
>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 7:47 PM
>>>>> I know we've had this discussion
>>>>> before but I need to ask again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> will you folks at least top post your replies. I find it
>>>>> difficult yo go through all those replies to get to the
>>>>> response at the bottom. If you think I am kidding, please
>>>>> imagine yourself either reading this list by braille or
>>>>> listening to it by text to speech. believe me, 2 or 3
>>>>> replies deep with the plug advertisement in between gets old
>>>>> fast.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Believe me, I don't make this request lightly. I had recent
>>>>> changes in what was left of my eyesight, thus making it
>>>>> impossible for me to even read large print. before I would
>>>>> work around this problem by skimming. I can't do that
>>>>> anymore. I have to depend on speech for now until I get
>>>>> braille trained.
>>>>> 
> 
> 
> Top posting is done in the business world because business emails only
> get reviewed by lawyers.
> Lists that may be reviewed for technical insight, or to understand a
> problem should be bottom posted so that the sequence of
> question-refinement-answer-confimation is preserved.
> PLUG is nominally a technical list - so post as you wish, just know
> that when you are scolded, you earned it. btw trimming email cruft is
> appreciated.
> 
> The ability to filter on posting style does not (yet) exist in an
> email client - ymmv
> and yes gmail makes a bottom posted sequence of emails very readable -
> with little kbrd/mouse
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