IRC Channel Access

[Bob Elzer]

But you're right, if it only affects you then why ban you.

Why aren't they banning the exploiters.

It's like saying we don't allow sick people in the hospital. lol

 

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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Sean
Parsons
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 6:29 PM
To: 'Main PLUG discussion list'
Subject: RE: IRC Channel Access

Sorry, Guess the resolution would be prudent.

According to the Ubuntu council, the exploit is being handled in one of two
ways:

	1. Upgrade the firmware of the router, but nobody knows what
versions are safe, we couldn't agree on this as a resolution.
	2. Stop accessing freenode on channel 6667, they recommend 8001 as
the exploit doesn't work on this channel. I was able to get the irc client
switched to 8001 and after a lengthy appeal I was retested and the ban
lifted.

	I've read up on this issue as its been around since 2006 and affects
Linksys, Netgear, and several other residential gateways. My unit is a
Linksys WRT54G V8 which is only a few months old, so I wouldn't expect it to
have this issue, but apparently it does. The current firmware releases
dating back to my version do not show any resolution to this exploit, so I
don't want to flash my router until I know I have a problems and this is the
solution....

	As for the exploit, the script kiddies apparently launch some DCC
command at one of these routers and then kill the connection, it then forces
my connection to freenode to terminate. I fail to see how this becomes an
issue to them if I'm the one disconnected, but hey Im new to IRC. Anyway
they say that all users to freenode should take one of these two solutions
or risk being banned from any channel where these BOTS they have setup test
each user and kick/ban/redirect you into a purgatory where I found no help
in getting myself fixed, just read their web page post and figure it out on
your own. Hence my desire to go elsewhere.

	I've sent an e-mail to Linksys asking for information about this
issue and will post if I get a response, but the consensus on several forums
is that is an IRC server problem, not theirs.... so who knows when or if it
will be fixed..... 3 years is a long time to know about it and not fix it...

	Needless to say I learned more than I wanted to about this exploit,
my router, and IRC Sociology..... I prefer E-Mail, telephone, SMS, or even
hand gestures to some of this IRC experience.... but hey I'm still here!

Thanks to all who helped! Now I'm going to get drunk!

Sean Parsons


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Bob
Elzer
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 5:59 PM
To: 'Main PLUG discussion list'
Subject: RE: IRC Channel Access

So what was the fix ???
 

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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Sean
Parsons
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 5:23 PM
To: 'Main PLUG discussion list'
Subject: RE: IRC Channel Access

I actually used their appeal process to explain my concerns and complaint to
the Ubuntu IRC Council and found concerned adults to took my issues and
provided the help necessary to "fix" my problem and apologized for the
incident, as well as lifting the ban.

I'm now back on the freenode servers, It just took several hours to get to
the people in charge.

I was only asking if there was an alternative, as I had no desire to fight
with these people. After the replys from earlier I went back and insisted on
speaking with somebody about making a complaint and things were fixed.


Sean Parsons


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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
Technomage
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 5:13 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: IRC Channel Access

Sean Parsons wrote:
> Is freenode the only access to PLUG-AZ? I seem to have been kicked out 
> of
a
> channel because my "router" is buggy, some exploit they say I am
susceptible
> to and there for are banned from the #Ubuntu channel entirely. The ops
think
> its funny to gang up and pelt you with conflicting answers and when 
> you
call
> them on their behavior you get lectured on net etiquette, kettle? 
>
>  
>
> Needless to say I am too old for kid games, is there another server 
> that
has
> access to the channel?
>
>  
>
> Sean Parsons
>
>   
well, when we first setup the irc chan, freenode was generally a nicer
place. It may be a bit more populated with children these days. I am not
sure we have any other chans on any other network. I could try setting up a
private server again but I really don't want the work and all that this
entails (I was, after all, the original maintainer of the chan when it was
on the private server so long ago). I am open to suggestions as to where
else we can host it (EFnet is still around).
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