Linux certification

Sun Nov 1 19:10:13 MST 2009

Josh,
	I'm already employed as the IT Manager for a local company. We have
MS systems to date and my desire to expand into Linux will eventually carry
this company with me. My background is Telecommunications but I always find
myself back in IT somehow, but anyway the burden for this training is due to
my own ambition not the company's. I just thought that taking the classes
would help me get up to speed faster.

Thanks

Sean Parsons

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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Joshua
Zeidner
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:05 PM
To: dorian.monroe at cox.net; Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Linux certification

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Dorian Monroe <dorian.monroe at cox.net> wrote:
> "Step away from thar server!  I'm CERTIFIED!!"
>
> So what does this book say in a few sentences?  I can't make it to the lib
today/tomorrow and don't wanna be kept hangin'.  Thanks!!

   It just goes into vetting and relationship management techniques
for knowledge workers of all kinds.  In my view, these techniques are
going to attract useless employees, but if these are their standards,
then your work is cut out for you.  One thing I notice lately is the
premium HR managers put on workers fresh out of college.  The
perception is that someone fresh out of school is more likely to learn
the domain specific skills (read: unmarketable) and generally grow
roots with the company.  Once the roots are grown, then we can max out
the code bumper crop!

   Most non-software specific companies have ZERO clue about hiring
people.  The general practices certainly changed somewhere between 99
and 03.  There are 'best practices' now, and the key is learning what
those are.  The standards are far from obscure, ASMOF you can read
about them for free at phx PL.

   have fun, and learning is half the battle.  -jmz

>
> Sent from my blackberry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:40:39
> To: Main PLUG discussion list<plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Subject: Re: Linux certification
>
>  I highly recommend reading this book for a look inside how people
> decide to hire you:
>
>
 http://www.amazon.com/Hiring-Knowledge-Workers-Techies-Nerds/dp/0932633595
>
>  you can get it at Burton Barr library in central PHX.
>
>  -jmz
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Sean Parsons <sean at theparsonsfamily.com>
wrote:
>> Jason - Thank you for your response.
>>
>>        I have spent the last 4-5 months doing the self paced learning,
checking out every book I can get but it still falls short of complete as
it's one way learning and I can learn faster 2-way, asking questions-getting
answers. I have the LPI books on library loan to see if I could pass the
test, but seriously I know enough to break a server/workstation better than
a newbie.. :)
>>
>>        I want to learn more and need to find a place to get that 2-way
communication so I can get passed this learning curve. I want to replace 75%
of my windows servers in the next 12 months, but want to be more confident
in my abilities first.
>>
>>        Can you recommend a source for linux+, I have centered on Ubuntu
for now as Mandriva and Debian offered me too many challenges, but may be
fine after I get up to speed better. So I don't think the distro is a
factor.... yet.
>>
>>        I would love to be the guy to figure out how to play my MS games
in Linux, as it is now my only reason to keep Windows around in a virtual
desktop..... Eventually I'd like to use the disks for target practice.. :}
>>
>>        Thanks again for your time.
>>
>>
>> Sean Parsons
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Jason
Spatafore
>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:59 PM
>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>> Subject: Re: Linux certification
>>
>> Honestly, get Linux+ and play with Linux day in and day out. If you can
>> learn one command, and 3 of that command's most useful options, every
>> week, you will start to move forward fast. It's kind of like collecting
>> weapons in a video game...the more you have, the more versatile you can
>> be. (After 3 years, you'll know 150+ commands...and those 150 commands
>> is a HUGE arsenal of weaponry that can make you extremely versatile.)
>>
>> Do not think you can "certify yourself into the industry". Linux is
>> beyond an organized structure of system administration....it's a thought
>> process. You approach the problem with "what do I need to do?" then "is
>> there a command that already does it?"
>>
>> Linux has a community that creates, explores, challenges, and expands.
>> If you are going to be a part in that community, you must definitely
>> explore...a LOT.
>>
>> That's my advice to anybody who may want to get into Linux. Understand
>> that gaming will be your largest challenge...but you could become one of
>> the people who will change that drawback.
>>
>> All I have is Linux+...there's also LPI. I, myself, refuse to get a
>> distribution specific certification. I want to learn Linux...not one
>> company's translation on how it should be. Of course, you could be
>> different. If so, Red Hat and Novell (SuSE) have certification tracks as
>> well, and they're not for the lighthearted. They're pretty tough, but
>> very focused on *their* distributions.
>>
>> Remember, a Linux technician is beyond a guy who replaces a piece of
>> hardware or a system administrator who manages systems. A person who is
>> known in the Linux community is a combination of hardware technician,
>> programmer, and engineer...with a very good understanding of how all the
>> pieces mix and match.
>>
>> On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 08:55 -0700, Sean Parsons wrote:
>>> Hello all –
>>>
>>> I’m new to the group, but have been working in IT fields for longer
>>> than I want to admit, but I see the error of my ways and I want to
>>> repent and be saved
.. I’m considering getting Linux certification.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am interested in speaking with anyone who has gotten certified, or
>>> can give me any details about local cert classes or testing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Doorman352
>>>
>>>
>>>
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