idea -- site offers free wiki [hosting]

[Lisa Kachold]

Gee, thanks for the constructive critique.  Not sure where it came from,
however.

You will find that most of the people in the PLUG have extensive knowledge
and communicate it in authority.  It's from say skipping two grades in
school, or expected in old school Nix IT, and does come from excelling
intellectually in the trenches (DNS/Mail/NFS, Security etc) at Corporate
career roles.  You can read my resume if you like:
http://obnosis.110mb.com/0BNOSIS.doc or see my Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LisaKachold.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LisaKachold>

But why did you write this to me now?  Seems out of context, that which I
wrote below was not a personal slight but an explanation of Linux types in
general and the issues of living and ended with the good suggestion to just
package your problems for the list, since the mere process of arranging all
the logs and issues often is the solution in itself, rather than get people
to your house, that help is what we DO HERE?

And I am glad you got IpCop going; that's a difficult install for so many
zones.

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Matthew A Coulliette <matthewlug at cox.net>wrote:

>  Lisa,
>
>     As I know we can both agree that I am not perfect, please take the
> following with a grain of salt.  My intent is to provide some constructive
> criticism.
>     Our last few emails have been very interesting to me.  You usually come
> across as having a superiority complex.   I figured it was from working in
> an all male environment for 20 years, and having 20 years of experience
> working with computers.  A couple of times I noticed that when you reply to
> an email post you write several paragraphs on why you are an authority
> before making a single line comment.  Although, I understand your
> perspective in justifying your comments, you could let your comments stand
> on their own merit, also, your audience has many emails to read and would
> occasionally appreciate a little brevity in your remarks.  Also, when I
> attended your Hackfest I really felt like you were talking down to me, (us),
> and I almost left several times.  I am sure you did not intend to do so,
> however, listening to someone talk down to you for 3 hours is not something
> we are going to look forward too, or come back for more, anytime soon.  In
> my opinion, if you soften up your approach a little you might start having a
> little bigger audience at the Hackfests.  (Despite the current economy.)
>
> MatthewMPP
>
>
> Lisa Kachold wrote:
>
> Yes, along with great ability and strong individualism comes intellectual
> arrogance, intolerance and rigidity.
>
> For many of us, our viewpoints are so cutting edge, our abstract
> intelligence so refined, it's lonely to live with humans of lesser castes.
> Unfortunate but true, we often allow our drive to grow into a limiting
> control.
>
> Write out your problems and post logs to the list.  We will help.
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Matthew A Coulliette <matthewlug at cox.net>wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>     I appreciate the brainstorming, and at one point I considered
>> something along these lines.  However, having an electrical background,
>> computer science comes naturally to me.  I built a raid 5 data server, a
>> raid 1 web server, a router, and 4 workstations.  With the web server
>> running raid 1 and occasionally backed up to the raid 5 data server, I
>> believe the data should be adequately backed up.  I am having a few problems
>> with implementing the software which I was hoping someone would help me
>> with, but, no worries either way.  I will eventually learn how to over come
>> any obstacle that is in front of me.
>>     I do not mean to be insensitive, I know that if I work alone on this
>> project it might very well take me the rest of my life, and that would not
>> be in the spirit of linux.  To me the spirit of linux is us working together
>> to over come obstacles that we would not be able to over come by ourselves.
>> I also know that when people volunteer on a project they like to feel that
>> their opinion counts, (and it should count).  However, the project manager
>> (the person dedicated to seeing the project all the way from beginning to
>> end) must be the guiding hand, in order to give the project stability and
>> direction.  To me, this is especially true with linux, where there are some
>> ways of doing the same thing.
>>
>> MatthewMPP
>>
>>
>>
>> Lisa Kachold wrote:
>>
>> Great idea Mike!
>>
>> The same thing is available with php/mysql and mail for about $20.00
>> upgrade on free stuff at 110mb.com - see exampleswiki.obnosis.comnuke.obnosis.commoodle.obnosis.com
>>
>> I have a few others....what did I name them?
>>
>> <meningioma moment>
>>
>>
>> On 5/12/09, Mike Schwartz <schwartz at acm.org> <schwartz at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  I also have an idea -- a suggestion to check out the free wiki [hosting]
>> service available at
>>    http://www.wikispaces.com/site/pricing
>> but since it is also outside the scope of the "day and time" thread, I
>> decided to create this sub-thread or "branch".
>>     If the BlenderCAD initiative does need (well, if it could use) a wiki,
>> then I think this might save some hassle, -- of running / managing a server.
>>    Of course, if the BlenderCAD initiative were some kind of proprietary
>> company project, then maybe some of the ideas on the wiki might be trade
>> secrets or not-yet-patented inventions, or something -- so then, it
>> might not be appropriate to keep the [wiki] info on someone else's server;
>>  but since this is more like a non-profit cooperative joint venture to
>> create / improve some FLOSS (isn't it?) therefore, this ["free" wiki] idea
>> should be OK.  (right?)
>> --
>> Mike Schwartz
>> Glendale  AZschwartz at acm.org
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Mike Schwartz<mike.l.schwartz at gmail.com> <mike.l.schwartz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Matthew A Coulliette<matthewlug at cox.net> <matthewlug at cox.net>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>>    This thread is for anyone interested in participating in the
>> BlenderCAD workshop.  Please post a reply with the day and time of your
>> preference [...]
>>    I hope the location is okay. [...] not [...] changing it.  [...] -
>> MatthewMPP
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