PLUG Etiquette

Tue Jun 30 18:17:34 MST 2009

At the most recent W Side meeting, I recognized MatthewMPP and der.hans, but
most of the others, I just spaced out, when they stated their names.  ...so
I ended up being just as ignorant afterwards, as I was before ..
I *think* some of the names were those of posters who have posted on
PLUG-Discuss before, but I can't remember, (for sure).

Plus, I did bring along a name tag, and I wore it, even though some of the
others might have thought that I was being a little bit too "way out there"
by doing so (even for a nerd organization).

> [...] I can bring a box of name tags [...]

seriously dude, -- do it!  I am willing and (imho) able to "hand
print" in *courier
new,* at "about" the same speed as "normal" folks* who are (barely) aspiring
to write 'semi' legibly

*footnote:  *Ha!*  Like Plug 'has' any ["normal" folks] ...
ob. link: http://www.keepaustinweird.com/

>  No matter what he/she never remembers anyone's name or face.

I plead the fifth; ...Maybe the name tags will help.

ALSO, -- someone had an idea, a while back, to keep a list of photos
somewhere (on the web, or something) -- at least for those individuals who
post "once in a while", OR more often, to PLUG-Discuss.

I do not know what happened to that idea, but, for those (25 or so) members
of
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=35772265339
[the group "Phoenix Linux Users Group (PLUG)" on facebook],
we do have pictures of them -- unfortunately, some of them are people whom I
have never heard of (nor heard from), on PLUG-Discuss nor anywhere else.

I think there should be an informal PLUG etiquette guideline, that once
someone has posted to PLUG-Discuss at least 42 times, they should agree to
allow their photo to be available somewhere on the web.
Not that we can moderate them out of existence if they just submit a picture
of a submarine, or something, (or none at all); but, just saying, that it
would be a *nice gesture. *

I for one will try to bring a digital camera to any events that I attend,
and anyone who wants to be shot, I will be happy to do my best.  (and, -- as
long as it is OK with the person depicted in the picture -- then the photo
could go, umm, somewhere on the web.)

OK?--
Mike Schwartz
Glendale  AZ
schwartz at acm.org

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Mark Phillips <mark at phillipsmarketing.biz
> > wrote:
>
>> The List Lurker who occasionally asks for help and is always astounded by
>> the help he receives......
>>
>> Man, have I been missing a lot by not attending any face to face PLUG
>> events.....I can bring a box of name tags and we can all stereotype
>> ourselves....lol....;-)
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
> The Nameless One:  No matter what he/she never remembers anyone's name or
> face.
>
>
>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Scarlett Clark <
>> scarlett at manonthebench.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 10:50 -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>>> > After interacting in PLUG events over the last 3 years here, teaching
>>> > at freegeek.org and running the POWUG for 3 years in Oregon while also
>>> > after interacting in technology for more than 25 years in the
>>> > trenches, I have seen a great deal of bad manners, ineffective
>>> > competition, and behavior that leads anywhere but toward free and open
>>> > discussion and interaction.
>>> >
>>> > I have also observed interaction styles and personality types that
>>> > save a group with their fun approach, easy going nature and humanism.
>>> >
>>> > As you read these you might try not to descend to black and white
>>> > thinking, but see what each type ultimately provides to the group
>>> > experience.
>>> >
>>> > I am sure some of these basic types everyone will recognize:
>>> >
>>> > 1) Mr. OneUpMan:
>>> >
>>> > Rather than happily bantering along in information exchange, he powers
>>> > out to look more Intelligent or rudely talks down to others.  This can
>>> > include a swift change of subject to something not even similar to the
>>> > issue or subject stream.   He can never just "play" with others, and
>>> > never ever asks a question.  He can be so dominating that the whole
>>> > discussion around him has to be limited to his experience, his
>>> > training and his viewpoint.
>>> >
>>> > 2) Mr. Academic:
>>> >
>>> > This person will always fill in extraneous details and add additional
>>> > information.  He is certain that he is the one and only authority.
>>> > Unfortunately, often this limits others from actually doing their own
>>> > research (via google or other written documentation).
>>> >
>>> > 3) Mr. Gossip:
>>> >
>>> > This person, rather than discuss technology, complete lab exercises or
>>> > listen to others, spends a great deal of time discussing others, local
>>> > shops, history (skewed by their own resentments and losses or those of
>>> > their ally fellows).  Anything this person overhears in first person
>>> > singular humanism becomes fodder for their next ten sessions.  They
>>> > generally do not show up at events prepared for and interested in
>>> > technical viewpoints.  They often take "sides" without evaluating the
>>> > truth from a distance or without determining if it's actually their
>>> > business.
>>> >
>>> > 4) Mr. Serial Processing:
>>> >
>>> > This attendee cannot equate and absorb any information that he does
>>> > not direct.  He will take great measures of everyone's time by asking
>>> > directed questions to one individual about material that was just
>>> > covered by group discussion or presentation.  Often his frustration
>>> > becomes anger whereupon this person will accuse others of talking down
>>> > to him.  This is common in individuals who are experiencing a B
>>> > vitamin deficiency (that ultimately can lead to Korsakoff's Psychosis
>>> > and confabulation) from nutritional issues, but generally due to daily
>>> > ingesting large amounts of drugs or alcohol or a liver or other health
>>> > disorder.
>>> >
>>> > 5) Mr. Rude Helper:
>>> >
>>> > This PLUG attendee will approach someone who they don't know (who
>>> > usually vastly outspans them in education experience and even
>>> > employment) and attempt to help by directing them into the wrong
>>> > direction.  This disrepectful approach, while well meaning, is based
>>> > on an arrogance and grandiocity that is not matched by either their
>>> > suggestions or their ability.  They never ask the person they attach
>>> > themselves to, if they would like some help or happily attempt to play
>>> > with them.  This is commonly seen by women who are stereotyped and/or
>>> > dominated and keeps women introverts from interacting in labs and
>>> > groups.
>>> >
>>> > 6) Mr. Did you Know?
>>> >
>>> > This person dives happily in and expands any endeavor they are exposed
>>> > to.  Their enthusiam is infectious as they look into and communicate
>>> > with each head in their circle of hearing, and intiates
>>> > non-hierarchial happy fulll duplex PLAY.
>>> >
>>> > 7) Mr. I Can!
>>> >
>>> > This attendee is the one who does all the single tasks that someone
>>> > needs to do, often without most of the other PLUG people even
>>> > noticing.  He adjusts the video resolution for the overhead for the
>>> > presentation laptop in a slick teamwork concentric way, without, mind
>>> > you, any great huge announcement that he is the only one who knows how
>>> > to do it.  If another, like #5 above attempts to step in, he deftly
>>> > and politely sidesteps the intrusion.
>>> >
>>> > 8) Mr.  Devils' Advocate Question Man:
>>> >
>>> > This person usually asks all the pertinant questions to assist to
>>> > flesh out a subject for others.  It's not that he doesn't know, he
>>> > just wants to make sure a full discussion of the subject matter has
>>> > occurred for others.  Clueless PLUG people sometimes attempt to take
>>> > him aside or talk down to him after he has performed these important
>>> > functions.
>>> >
>>> > 9) Mr. Exploitation:
>>> >
>>> > This person skews all communications to his (choose one):
>>> >
>>> > a) Consulting endeavor
>>> > b) Security endeavor
>>> > c) Sales gig
>>> > d) Training endeavor
>>> >
>>> > They exclude (or actually poo-poo use of or) mention of the long list
>>> > of other FOSS tools, library materials and online test preparation
>>> > guides.
>>> > While all PLUG members have a variety of skills, this person fails to
>>> > interact in the true spirit of free and open source.
>>> >
>>> > 10) Mr. Hacker:
>>> >
>>> > These people actually sit back and talk nice to you, while actually
>>> > attempting to gain access or damage to your equipment.  They are
>>> > usually swiftly caught, however they generally show up somewhere else
>>> > with their ettercap and wicrack.   Unfortunately, they are often
>>> > successful.
>>> >
>>> > 11)  Mr. Aphasia:
>>> >
>>> > They people are so vastly intelligent via written materials and
>>> > understanding, but cannot communicate or complete in useless stand
>>> > around and argue verbal sessions (with #1 above).  They are focused on
>>> > doing, and doing very very well.  They generally quietly endue all the
>>> > other annoying types and sit back and take in the information, at some
>>> > deep level (like all of us) lonely for others like themselves.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > See yourself here?  Have additional types to add?
>>> > --
>>> > (503)754-4452 wiki.obnosis.com
>>> > scientology.obnosis.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> Ms shy that so desperately wants to fit in, but afraid of the flames so
>>> stays in the background.
>>>
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