****Re: guess what....

[Joshua Zeidner]

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Craig White<craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 06:43 -0700, JD Austin wrote:
>>
>> I was waiting to see how long until racism was called :)
>> It is a fact that illegal immigration is costing Az and Ca plenty and
>> pointing that out doesn't make him hate filled or racist.  I don't
>> blame them for coming here... If I were them I'd do it too.  We need
>> to remove the 'free' incentives that we can no longer afford to
>> provide.  They're not the only demographic freeloading services;
>> plenty of Americans game the system (generations!) to get a free ride
>> too.
> ----
> first off, the topic of racism, state budgetary issues have no purpose
> for this list
>
> secondly, this was blatant scapegoating...blaming the economic problems
> on a particular issue - if you are not smart enough to deduce that the
> issues the state is currently facing on budgetary shortfalls has nothing
> to do with undocumented residents then there really isn't any point in a
> debate on any other list as well and it obviously isn't worth debating
> here. There's no reason whatsoever to debate the
> worthiness/unworthiness, the reasons or the issues of Mexicans in this
> country on this list.
>
> I didn't suggest racism...I suggested narrow political commentary being
> offered as fact.

"I find it offensive in every way that first JMZ linked the racist
article and now you found it worthy to paste."  -you, about 3 posts ago

  do you even think about what you're writing?

  btw- I agree with JD.  Playing the 'racism' card in typical boomer
fashion only serves to short-circuit a very important debate.  We need
to examine our priorities here.  Were going to drastically cut
education, even sell off the state senate building instead of cutting
services to non-americans?  Hiding behind the ghost of Martin Luther
King is not going to fix the problem.  Pretending this is not a
problem may buy us a few years- let me guess... just long enough for
Craig to ride out retirement?

  -jmz