Gmail Outbound SMTP Solutions: WAS: Ummm...need a little bit of router config help...

Lisa Kachold lisakachold at obnosis.com
Sat Jul 4 18:02:03 MST 2009


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From: Lisa Kachold <obnosis at whitehouse.gov>
Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Ummm...need a little bit of router config help...
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>

My mail use is very different that others, since I am operating at Defcon
Level 3 most of the time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFCON) due to
security work, public persona.

ssmtp works great for outgoing mail to gmail:
http://www.sysadminsjourney.com/2008/09/01/use-gmail-as-an-smtp-relay-using-ssmtp

mailx and msmtp work too:
http://www.ericstockwell.com/?p=3

I also just use Sendmail SMTP/TLS to gmail (with cox - they limit ports):
http://www.linuxha.com/other/sendmail/

There is also PostFix and FetchMail versions:
http://linuxgazette.net/115/chirico1.html

And KMail:
http://www.linux-archive.org/kubuntu-user/263638-using-kmail-send-mail-through-gmail.html

And ruby:  (nice within Puppet)
http://forums.pragprog.com/forums/43/topics/541

And fake sendmail for windows:
http://glob.com.au/sendmail/


On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Eric Shubert <ejs at shubes.net> wrote:

> ssmtp the (software) package doesn't appear to be all that it's cracked
> up to be: http://www.davidgrant.ca/ssmtp_vs_postfix_no_contest
>
> As for gmail's free ssmpt service, I haven't looked into it. I figure
> there's gotta be some sort of limit, catch, or something I would find
> objectionable. "There's no free lunch".
>
> Lisa Kachold wrote:
> > Gmail ssmtp works too.  It's free!
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Eric Shubert <ejs at shubes.net
> > <mailto:ejs at shubes.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     Right. I use dyndns.org <http://dyndns.org>'s mailhop outbound in
> >     these cases.
> >     150 outbound emails per day for $15/year.
> >     Affordable, and it works flawlessly.
> >
> >     Bob Elzer wrote:
> >      > your right. I forgot I was able to get it working, but because
> >     the IP 's are
> >      > dynamic, they are on mailing blacklist, so if a site uses one of
> the
> >      > blacklists, you can't send mail to it.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > -----Original Message-----
> >      > From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >     <mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> >      > [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >     <mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>] On Behalf Of
> >     Eric
> >      > Shubert
> >      > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:38 PM
> >      > To: plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >     <mailto:plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> >      > Subject: Re: Ummm...need a little bit of router config help...
> >      >
> >      > I know of 3 qwest dsl customers who have no blocking on port 80
> >     or 25. I
> >      >   haven't heard of qwest blocking any ports before this post. I
> >     know that
> >      > they do have restrictions on using their outbound mail servers
> >     (mail must
> >      > come from their email accounts, which is reasonable I suppose).
> >      >
> >      > Bob Elzer wrote:
> >      >> Qwest only blocks port 25, I'm running a web on 80 it works ok.
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >> -----Original Message-----
> >      >> From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >     <mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> >      >> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >     <mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>] On Behalf Of
> >      >> Joseph Sinclair
> >      >> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:58 PM
> >      >> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> >      >> Subject: Re: Ummm...need a little bit of router config help...
> >      >>
> >      >> Lisa Kachold wrote:
> >      >>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Jim March
> >     <1.jim.march at gmail.com <mailto:1.jim.march at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >      >>>
> >      >>>> Any idea what I've missed here?
> >      >>> I believe that the Quest DSL allows port 80 inbound, but I would
> >      >>> check
> >      >> this.
> >      >>
> >      >> I think Lisa may have hit the problem here:
> >      >>
> >      >> Try setting the forward on the router to route some other port
> (e.g.
> >      >> 45786) on the outside interface to your zoneminder server on
> >     port 80.
> >      >> If that works, then you're dealing with a QWest issue, and you
> >     should
> >      >> be able to just use some alternate high-range port.
> >      >>
> >      >> BTW, don't try the obvious 8080, 8000, etc...  If they block 80,
> >     they
> >      >> typically block those too.  They almost never block ports above
> >     32768,
> >      >> however.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > --
> >      > -Eric 'shubes'
> >      >
>
>
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
>
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