OT: Microsoft layoffs

[Stephen]

Crossover was very good for a number of things.

the issues i had was trying to get some of the cisco apps to run, they
may be java but id be durned to get them to work in anything but a VM,
and then i needed to run the blackberry software and that ran in wine,
but i didnt get the USB transaltion to cooperate well at all.

there were a couple of others. but those were the main breakers.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, James Finstrom
<jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
> I have had decent luck with crossover. It is not free software (but it was
> free as in beer for a day) I don't actually do much with it as I have been
> clean from windows so long I actually had to go seek out apps to install in
> it because I didn't use any windows apps. I was able to run googles new
> browser via the crossover guys and to have Photoshop on Linux thanks to
> crossover so the few apps I find useful or the apps i wanna mess with
> because they are suppose to be the coolest thing since canned beer it seems
> to work. I am not a gamer in fact the last PC game I played was Duke Nukem
> and that lasted all of 10 minutes so I cant speak much to that aspect. If
> you are one of those WOW people I hear that runs in crossover but I couldn't
> say for sure.
>
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> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Honestly i liked vista, i ran the beta and it was weird but there were
>> a number of thigns, the weird started to fade away as MS released
>> backwards compatability patches and software developers wrote their
>> code to be more compatible. Windows 7 is looking to fix a few of my
>> bigger complaints of Vista (running slimmer and without as much
>> overhead). but some of the same weirdness is ricgh back on the block
>> regarding driver and software compatability.
>>
>> I get this, it is a beta, and to stay bleeding edge this is soemthing
>> im more than willing to deal with.
>>
>> I also ran my Desktop that is running windows 7 as a full linux
>> machine for a couple motnhs as a test to see what i cna and cant get
>> away with. in the meantime i really liked it as a desktop environment,
>> learned a great deal about it as a workstation, but also realised i
>> have certain needs in my job that just cannot be circumvented with
>> wine/vm. so back to windows i go.
>>
>> but at home once i get a new video card im all over it.
>>
>> Heck my boss and i talk about the delight of running/administering a
>> 100% opensource network. firewall to desktop. and we do some real
>> studies about how much of your personal needs you can replace with
>> opensource software. and i can get pretty darn close. so can he.. we
>> just  have a few apps we are trying to sort out.
>>
>> for me the difficulty comes in i am a gamer... and well most of the
>> gams i play are windows based... so i either need to get really
>> creative with wine or dual boot.
>>
>> I personally would like to see a fork of the wine project that will
>> merge the two.. so your wine install ties into an existing windows
>> install so you can attempt to run applications from a dual booted
>> environment. but i think thats a digression.
>>
>> The big hurt on MS is really that people dont like change, and for a
>> long time MS didnt change much. win 95 -> 98 -> ME and NT 3.x -> NT4
>> -> Win 2k -> win XP didnt chang emuch.. peopel had more or less the
>> Same UI and admin needs and whatnot available for about13 years now.
>> and MS is telling them sorry to keep things going you have to change
>> to this new UI and backend? sorry peopel stayed with windows over
>> unix/linux not becuase of any great love of MS its their desire to not
>> change and learn something new.
>>
>> thats been the biggest grive about an OS upgrade of anyone i have
>> talked with... its different they have to relearn things.
>>
>> now vista and windows 7 come along...
>>
>> thats why MS is laying ppl off. that and the fact nobody can aford to
>> buy a new OS OEM pricing of windows home basic is about 80 bux not
>> calculating discounts and then vor vista ultimate its about 200.
>> windows 7 will be about the same.
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