OT:Exchange good? - And the flame wars begin (Was:Re:newhotness?)

[Bryan O'Neal]

There are three pieces of information my CIS430 class taught me. 1) The
newest graduate in the CS field often has more technical knowledge they you
do. 2) Your project will never be perfect, you better learn what to cut and
how to meet the requirements on time. 3) You need to know enough to do your
subordinates job but always remember, your job is to hire, fire, and manage
the hard core tech monkey, not be the hard core tech monkey. 
:)

I have an infinite desire to learn, but a limited amount of time and money
to do that.  And the people who employ me care about nothing other then the
return on their investment.  So yes, I am more then willing to consider
prepackaged solutions and I may only care about how it works when I need to
do something with it.  I could not program the RIM OS from scratch, I don't
know every bolt in their infrastructure, but I do know how to get a BES up
and running with 50 black berries in 5 hours flat. And that, is what I am
paid for :)

-----Original Message-----
From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:42 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: OT:Exchange good? - And the flame wars begin
(Was:Re:newhotness?)

its not about "not thinking" its about having a series of solutions to match
a business need or desire that integrate with eachother. telling me that im
"and then you're be another administrator who never took the time to
understand the underlying technologies, with no derived skills to
troubleshoot problems and no study why other parts/daemons might be better
suited for your particular needs."

when the exact nature of what i am doing is just that. I know a lot, but
there is never going to be a point when i have all the answers and i like
that. i want to be able to find and learn something new cause if i don't ill
be bored as hell. and how do you know what i do or dont know? just because
id like to find something that will make my day easier? or even better see a
real competitor in the market as an alternative to Lotus exchange or Small
Business server?

and just because its there doesn't make it the right choice but an
alternative. its still my responsibility to decide whats the right mix of
features and needs.

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 11:48 -0700, Stephen wrote:
>> I misused the term, it was never meant to be a bad thing, it just is 
>> and everyone makes things tey like but none of them actually talk to 
>> each other.
>>
>> i guess that's what my original use of the word was to mean.
>>
>> and the reason alot of people go with SBS is because that it is a 
>> unified package. and some people just dont have the desire to puzzle 
>> it all together. but im thinking maybe a list/package and some 
>> settings/notes for those of use who want to build one ect.
>>
>> so its not a separate distribution per se but something that can be
built.
>>
>> For me the goal is a simple unified data store to join these already 
>> built packages...
> ----
> and then you'd be accepting someone else's conclusions on which 
> packages to include, integrate and configure.
>
> and then you're be another administrator who never took the time to 
> understand the underlying technologies, with no derived skills to 
> troubleshoot problems and no study why other parts/daemons might be 
> better suited for your particular needs.
>
> Craig
>
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