Google Problem 1/31

[Tameek Henderson]

Craig,

I think the "problem" with companies like Apple and Microsoft are they're slaves to their shareholders.  These companies have made their money off a business model Windows/Office for Microsoft and Ipod/Mac for Apple.  Subsequently, investors have brought into these business models, and Microsoft and Apple must adhere to their investors.  Once companies get to that point they will do whatever's necessary to protect their marketshare

Am I making sense at all?  Typing on this Blackberry is a chore :-p


Tameek Henderson
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-----Original Message-----
From: Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com>

Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:49:13 
To: Main PLUG discussion list<plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Subject: Re: Google Problem 1/31


On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 14:13 -0700, Jason wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 20:26 +0000, Tameek Henderson wrote:
> > I'm starting to believe hating Microsoft and/or Apple are prequisite
> > for this Linux Groups.  Anyway, my name is Ty, I'm a noob, also just
> > moved to Arizona.  Good day to you all.
> 
> A lot of people say that. But the reality is that you get sick of
> Microsoft and their games. Apple, I kinda like them now that they are
> moving away from the DRM crap and so on.
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I think you are living in alternate reality. Yes, they did free up their
iTunes store from selling DRM but that's because they could see that
purchasers were figuring out how much they were being screwed by the
restrictions and it was hurting sales.

but if you think Apple is moving away from DRM - think again...

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/11/apple-downgrades-macbook-video-drm
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> I don't think that we hate just Microsoft...we hate people who
> continuously try to monopolize and restrict growth to their own private
> gains. 
> 
> That, of course, is the exact reason why people like Open Source
> Software, and why Linux is growing.
> 
> Now, ask yourself, does Microsoft try to monopolize and restrict growth
> (and even usage)? Does Apple? Does Linux? BSD? Unix? What about Cisco
> and their IOS?
> 
> So, is it a prerequisite to hate those restrictive companies? 
> 
> I'll let you ponder that and maybe you can see why there is "bad blood"
> between some of us and those companies.
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I don't disagree with your logic but I do disagree with your assessment
of Apple and it seems evident to me that Apple would be equally as bad
as Microsoft if they actually had market share.

They also have been heavy handed with the applications that they allow
for sale in iTunes store for iPhone and iPod/iPod Touch

And as long as I'm dumping on Apple...why didn't they help deliver a
version of OOo for OSX and even to this day, MacBooks/iMac's still come
with a 'trial' version of Microsoft Office instead of a free copy of
OOo.

The simple fact is that these companies are corporations that will
continually sell you the same software over and over again with
artificial restrictions imposed on the 'purchaser'.

For me, it's not a question of hate because I don't hate these companies
but I extremely dislike their marketing tactics, their intentional
design choices that disfavors the consumers of their products and their
excessive control over the hardware manufacturers that complicates life
for the Linux user.

Craig

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