Sonoran Penguin

[Joshua Zeidner]

 no way I would even bother without having my terms agreed to by a
party who is in the position to do so.  Its not asking a lot, its
basically a safeguard against my time being utterly wasted.  I've
worked enough with these free-for-all technology groups to know what
to expect of human nature.  -jmz

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Bob Elzer<bob.elzer at gmail.com> wrote:
> Now I think you're procrastinating :-)
>
> First you said you would do it, and let everyone decide if we liked it. Now
> you don't want to.
>
> For all we know you might come up with a horrible design.
>
> You're going to have to show us what you got, before we say it should be the
> new theme.
>
> Time to put up or....   :-)
>
> And if it isn't obvious, this is in FUN !!!
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On
>> Behalf Of Joshua Zeidner
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:22 PM
>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>> Subject: Re: Sonoran Penguin
>>
>>  well needless to say Im not interested in doing a template.
>> Think about it... why would I do it?  I dont have any
>> guarantee it 1) will be used, 2) be put in a context that
>> doesnt make it look like garbage,
>> 3) be attributed.  Just following here for educational purposes.   ..
>> Seems like the concern is you're going to scare away people
>> if management is introduced.  conversely, youre going to
>> scare away people if management isnt introduced (the OT problem).
>>
>>  non-existent steering committee: Sounds like you've got an
>> issue on your hands.
>>
>>   -jmz
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:56 PM, R P
>> Herrold<herrold at owlriver.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
>> >
>> >>  Nothing substantial can be organized unless there is clear
>> >> management.  Who will determine what is an 'improvement'
>> and what is
>> >> a total failure?  PLUG needs to grow up and harness the
>> talents that
>> >> we currently have in abundance.  Stop with these silly games
>> >> pretending no one is running the show.
>> >
>> > Someone pays the domain renewal bill (if any); someone
>> pays, or calls
>> > a favor, with the location the box is hosted; someone has
>> root on that
>> > box.   Find those answers, and you have the throat to choke.
>> >
>> > Unhappy with those answers?  Can't figure it out?  Fork and
>> > out-perform the incumbent.  Running code talks.  This is FOSS after
>> > all.
>> >
>> > No slam on der Hans, or Lisa.  Running a LUG is hard;
>> running it for
>> > years and years is even harder
>> >
>> > Bring your own domain registration for a LUG, and I'll
>> provide access
>> > to a host for a virthost website, mailing list, etc on a
>> box that has
>> > in its past hosted Distrowatch, the Metro Detroit LUG, the
>> Tampa LUG,
>> > a couple of defunct LUGs, and the Central OH LUG
>> (currently).  Others
>> > as well, but I fergit.
>> >
>> > But kvetching about it and not acting is just pointless.
>> >
>> > -- Russ herrold
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