Sonoran Penguin

Joshua Zeidner jjzeidner at gmail.com
Wed Aug 5 19:21:32 MST 2009


 well needless to say Im not interested in doing a template.  Think
about it... why would I do it?  I dont have any guarantee it 1) will
be used, 2) be put in a context that doesnt make it look like garbage,
3) be attributed.  Just following here for educational purposes.   ..
Seems like the concern is you're going to scare away people if
management is introduced.  conversely, youre going to scare away
people if management isnt introduced (the OT problem).

 non-existent steering committee: Sounds like you've got an issue on your hands.

  -jmz

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:56 PM, R P Herrold<herrold at owlriver.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
>
>>  Nothing substantial can be organized unless there is clear
>> management.  Who will determine what is an 'improvement' and what is a
>> total failure?  PLUG needs to grow up and harness the talents that we
>> currently have in abundance.  Stop with these silly games pretending
>> no one is running the show.
>
> Someone pays the domain renewal bill (if any); someone pays,
> or calls a favor, with the location the box is hosted; someone
> has root on that box.   Find those answers, and you have the
> throat to choke.
>
> Unhappy with those answers?  Can't figure it out?  Fork and
> out-perform the incumbent.  Running code talks.  This is FOSS
> after all.
>
> No slam on der Hans, or Lisa.  Running a LUG is hard;
> running it for years and years is even harder
>
> Bring your own domain registration for a LUG, and I'll provide
> access to a host for a virthost website, mailing list, etc on
> a box that has in its past hosted Distrowatch, the Metro
> Detroit LUG, the Tampa LUG, a couple of defunct LUGs, and the
> Central OH LUG (currently).  Others as well, but I fergit.
>
> But kvetching about it and not acting is just pointless.
>
> -- Russ herrold
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