On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:30 AM, James Finstrom <jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote: > I once saw a motivational stye poster that said .45 ACP because you > aren't going to take down a crackhead with a 9mm > you know what? he's right. you wouldn't be able to with a 9. a .40 A/E might stand a good chance though.