Off topic kills value of the list and group

Dan Lund situationalawareness at gmail.com
Thu Nov 6 21:25:41 MST 2008


You know, I've put up with this battle too much and people trying to
make a Topic-based list into a general discussion "democracy".  I
digress, you guys have a great one.
I'm unsubscribing.

Thanks,
Dan Lund

"There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely
ignorance."
--Socrates



On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:42 PM, jdawg <jdawgaz at cox.net> wrote:
> forgive me for the top post: but I wanted to get  my point across.
> this is a democracy, and you can cajole all you want to, but it won't change
> the fact that some people will post what they will, and others will
> reply to it.
>
> if you don't like the occasional posting of that kind -- excercise your
> right to hit
> the delete key. or create a rule to delete all topics with that subject.
>
> it is SO DAMN EASY, but I guess it feels better to complain -- although
> it takes longer!
>
>
>
> Craig White wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 15:17 -0700, Alan Dayley wrote:
>>
>>> I know several high quality people that either use Linux or want to
>>> learn more about using Linux.  They were on the cusp but all had a
>>> similar complaint: They thought this email list had too much off topic
>>> and "silly," to use one person's term, stuff in it.
>>>
>>> After the recent "screwed" threads, how in the world do I get them to
>>> participate?
>>>
>>> Please, as a group, let's not do do that again.  Ever.
>>>
>> ----
>> sounds reasonable but doesn't fly...mail lists always have their
>> off-topic dalliances and learning to cope, delete, respond or whatever
>> is just part and parcel of the medium. Perhaps we need another round of
>> top or bottom posting, html mail suitability or just go for one of the
>> tried and true pointless discussions such as vi or emacs/gnome or
>> kde/which distro is best just to satisfy the notion that it isn't always
>> politics.
>>
>> Yes, it has useless stuff...in fact, I would point out that the OP of
>> the 'We are screwed' thread has a noise to signal ratio of about 90%. I
>> do not ask that he or anyone be removed from the list and support his
>> right to post as much as anyone's because I too can filter or just
>> delete his nonsense as I see fit.
>>
>> While I appreciate that on its face, there seems little to be served by
>> having a political discussion on list, it is encouraging to see a
>> diverse point of view by the list members and while I have a tough time
>> finding respect for low quality, unsubstantiated opinions typically
>> expressed by Mike Havens, I do enjoy vigorous discussions for those I do
>> disagree and it does help all of us recognize that there are disparate
>> opinions. This is not a one-off type of commentary from Mike Havens and
>> I'm quite sure that many are aware of that.
>>
>> My own personal disappointment stems from the apparent lack of interest
>> in topics such as the H1B visas, the release of the white space
>> bandwidth by the FEC and end up getting swamped by traffic about Obama
>> being a Socialist which is about as stupid as political discourse can
>> get these days.
>>
>> The easy solution is that people who sign up for mail lists learn how to
>> use their delete key or better yet, the combination of 'threads' and the
>> delete key can just kill an entire thread in a single click.
>>
>> Craig
>>
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