right on the edge...

Jason Hayes jason at jasonhayes.org
Thu Nov 6 10:25:06 MST 2008


Craig,

For crying out loud. Drop it already!

We all get it. You like Obama. You don't like conservatives. You don't like 
Mike. You don't like Keith. You don't like Christ. Everyone but you (and those 
with whom you agree) is "extreme" and "irrelevant."

You've already "moderated" those points to death. We understand! We get it! 
Now let it go!

If you want to continue the discussion with Keith and Mike or someone else off 
the list, feel free to do so.

Jason


On Thursday 06 November 2008 00:04:20 Craig White wrote:

> The list would be severely diminished by moderation and going through
> the PLUG website, I failed to locate any rules that govern discussion on
> the list and as you have pointed out, there is typically community
> moderation that mostly works.
>
> One cannot overlook the people who decided to use the PLUG list to tell
> us we are screwed, Obama is a Socialist and a Muslim and cavorting with
> terrorists as the perpetrators of the misuse of the list. Those are the
> people who raised the topics of politics and religion on the list.
>
> If there are some like Mike Havens who decide to dump their political
> disappointments on the list with no purpose other than to create havoc,
> it's reasonable to expect that there will be push back by those who are
> offended - that is the very point of community moderation.
>
> If there are some like Keith Smith, who want to use the list to advance
> their extreme notions of Christianity, paint all Muslims as evil and
> just generally spew their bile with a special brand of intolerance with
> love for Reverend John Hagee, there is a need to push back and again, I
> see my efforts as a form of list community moderation.
>
> For the record, I didn't raise any of the topics in the 'We are screwed'
> thread. NONE. I did however, push back on the evil characterizations
> made by those who felt it important enough to use the PLUG mail list to
> introduce these characterizations and will do so every time because it
> is essential that we not allow these kind of sentiments to pass
> unchallenged.
>
> Also for the record, I do not apologize for my efforts to push back
> against those who wish to promulgate culture wars on this list.
>
> Craig
>
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Jason Hayes



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