OT: (is this OT?) udpate - [news item: "Sebastopol"] (was: Re: [...] municipal wifi woes)

[Michael Havens]

is the provider earthlink? they have a big -ol-office  in tempe. it is on 
unviversity and the i-10.... unless it closed.

On Tuesday 25 March 2008 1:19 am, Mike Schwartz wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 17:17 -0700, Mike Schwartz wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Mike Schwartz <schwartz at acm.org> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Craig White <craig at tobyhouse.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >  > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:42 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> > > >  > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Craig White
> > > >  > > <craig at tobyhouse.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >  > > >  On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 11:28 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> > > >  > > >  > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Mike Schwartz <
> >
> > schwartz at acm.org> wrote:
> > > >  > > >  > >  [4]   "[...] the municipal Wi-Fi market isn't dying.
> >
> > [...] But, [...]
> >
> > > >  > > >  > >  "taxpayers have lost so far." "
> > > >  > > >  > >  --
> > > >  > > >  > >  Mike Schwartz
> > > >  > > >  >
> > > >  > > >  >   as I've noted on this list before, Muni Wifi was
> >
> > pronounced dead
> >
> > > >  > > >  > before it was ever even born.  [...]
> > > >  > > >
> > > >  > > >  ----
> > > >  > > >  Obviously the consumer was the last consideration of Tempe's
> >
> > Muni WiFi
> >
> > > >  > > >  system [...]
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > >   As was pointed out on the AZIPA list, the contractor that was
> >
> > chosen
> >
> > > >  > > was not even an AZ in-state contractor [...]
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > >  Lessig discussed the last mile [...]
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > >   Can we have some names here?  [...]
> > > >  >
> > > >  > ----
> > > >  > [...] There seems to
> > > >  > be a quick charge to the blame game [...]
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Craig
> > > >  > ---------------------------------------------------
> > > >  > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [...]
> > > >
> > > >  Here's a news item:  at
> >
> > http://technews.acm.org/archives.cfm?fo=2008-03-mar/mar-24-2008.html#3545
> >74
> >
> > > >  it says:  <<
> > > >  "Intel Researchers Stretch Wi-Fi to Cover 60 Miles
> > > >  Network World (03/20/08) Cox, John
> > > >
> > > >  Intel recently demonstrated an 802.11 radio link with a data rate of
> > > >  approximately 6 Mbps and a range exceeding 60 miles. [...]"
> > > >
> > > >  ...and the final "Click Here to View Full Article" is a hyper link
> > > > to
> >
> > http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/032008-intel-wi-fi-60-miles.html
> >
> > > >  (where you may want to click on "Print"; -- (even to read it
> >
> > on-screen)) [...]
> >
> > > >  --
> > > >  Mike Schwartz
> > > >  [...]
> > >
> > > Also in the news today (hot off the electronic presses):
> > > ("Town of Sebastopol, CA rescinds resolution to provide public Wifi"):
> > >      http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/24/town-of-sebastopol-c.html
> > > ...now I wonder what the chances are that Tempe will be "Tempted" to
> > > do the same?
> >
> > ----
> > according to this (just 2 days ago)...
> >
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/us/22wireless.html
> >
> > it's already toast
> >
> > Craig
>
> Aha, OK.
> Now it sounds like what happened in the "Town of Sebastopol, CA" is
> not such big news -- it [canceled wifi plans] happened in other cities
> first.
> In that case, I wonder whether the alleged new tech breakthrough
>    (that "range exceeding 60 miles [...]" thing)
> might turn things around.