OT: Survelliance in America

[Lisa Kachold]

But the big issue for PLUG members, in FISA (and legislation of it's type) is the new overly expensive required fiscal reporting for EBay and others for "economic reasons"?  

Co-located Ecommerce will simply be moved out of country in the world economy of the internet?

This has the potential to impact our careers in a very big way, does it not?

Unless you want to move to a cheaper, less ethically warlike, foreign country to work?

Will we all be communicating (via webcam/email) from Canada, Italy, Spain, India or Indonesia in 3 years?

--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:
From: Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Survelliance in America
To: klsmith2020 at yahoo.com, "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 7:55 PM

On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 18:09 -0700, keith smith wrote:
> 
> 
> How about the internet is like your land line phone.   The courts have
> held you have an expectation of privacy.
> 
> I personally expect my emails not to be read and I do not want
> anything I do on ht  web to be accessed unless they meet my 4th
> amendment rights.
----
they've been reading your e-mails for years now. Your 4th Amendment
rights have been trampled for quite some time.

They can tap your phone just by mentioning an NSL and there are
thousands of documented failures to ever bother getting a warrant - even
after the fact as required by FISA.

Your faith in our government is unrealistic but probably typical.

Craig

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