OT - Have you seen this ad?

Dan Lund situationalawareness at gmail.com
Sat Aug 30 00:34:08 MST 2008


I find a 50-55 mpg motorcycle helps out tremendously.  My last tank
ran $0.07/mile, and I was pounding the throttle.

The metric is always $/mile, since the miles you drive always change
depending on what you are doing.  Also, driving style (highway,
surface roads, acceleration amounts, etc) has a huge impact on fuel
economy.
I've found that the Toyota Corolla gets 40 mpg on the highway on the
long-run between Phoenix and San Diego. (~360 miles) Not too shabby,
about 9 gallons... pretty good when my motorcycle uses about 7 gallons
on that trip.

Thanks,
Dan Lund
It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it
to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are always going to
act according to the wickedness of their spirits whenever they have
free scope.
-Niccolo Machiavelli



On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Eric Cope <eric.cope at gmail.com> wrote:
> I wouldn't be too excited about 32 mpg (I saw the 37s and 38s, thats
> better). Over 40 and thats good... (side note, have you safely aired up your
> tires to 40-45psi, that will get you 1-3 more mpg). The true metric is not
> $/mile, but $/day.
>
> $/gallon * gallons/mile *  miles/day = $/day. If you spend $.10/mile but
> commute to LA from Phoenix, its still wasteful... but if you spend $1.5/day
> on fuel, thats making a difference. because if its only $1.50 a day, then
> you could probably bike to work...
>
> let me know what your solar experiences are. I found they take 20+ years to
> pay for themselves with warranties under 20 years. Are you familiar with the
> maintenance of solar?
>
> And you didn't answer my second question. If we as a population are willing
> to do it ourselves (which is always better), why do we require our leaders
> to bully us into doing it ourselves?
>
> keep up the good fight!
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Jason Spatafore <jasons at spatafore.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> I bought a car that gets 32+ MPG constantly.
>>
>> See attached spreadsheet. :)
>>
>> Getting ready to have solar added to my house. 8.6kwH unit so I generate a
>> surplus.
>>
>> Notice how I measure performance on $/mile. That's what really matters. I
>> was ticked when it hit .10/mile. I want to see $.05/mile.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Eric Cope
>> To: huertanix at gmail.com ; Main PLUG discussion list
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: OT - Have you seen this ad?
>> Sorry to start the flame war...
>> Stephen, what are you doing to stop the "addiction"?
>> Why do we need our "leaders" to do it for us?
>>
>> <remaining on soap box for response>
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:23 PM, <huertanix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Link is relevant to my interests but please add an "OT" to the subject
>>> line next time. :)
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Stephen Wiebelhaus <shackman97 at yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:54:31
>>> To: <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>> Subject: Have you seen this ad?
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