KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

Trent Shipley tshipley at deru.com
Tue Aug 26 18:00:26 MST 2008


I thought the goal was free software for the masses.

On Tuesday 2008-08-26, Dan Lund wrote:
> It boils down to being unfamiliar with Linux in this position, which
> means you should buy a Windows machine with those questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan Lund
> It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it
> to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are always going to
> act according to the wickedness of their spirits whenever they have
> free scope.
> -Niccolo Machiavelli
>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com> 
wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:09 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> >> >  Stephen,
> >> >
> >> >    Im not knocking them personally.  I find it commendable that they
> >> > plainly state their return policy, which unfortunately many vendors
> >> > like them do not.
> >>
> >> ----
> >> I didn't think 15% restock fee was out of line at all.
> >
> >    If you're willing to pay for it... by all means- go right ahead.  But
> > if I bought a system and then I found out Skype or something else doesn't
> > work properly and I had to pay a 15% restocking fee, I'd be a little
> > upset.  This is the problem with Linux support, its notoriously
> > unmanageable, and often times the 'community' is driven by somewhat manic
> > tech-heads who refuse to conform to any idea whatsoever, let alone a
> > technological standard.
> >
> >> Obviously taking back returns without restocking fees (i.e. Fry's,
> >> Costco, etc.) is a marketing scheme.
> >
> >    Not really sure how to parse 'marketing scheme' here, but if you mean
> > 'a way to sell something' - yep it sure is.  I can take it home, see how
> > it plays with my hardware, use it for a few weeks, and if it doesn't
> > stick, all money is refunded.  Hardly a 'scheme' if were using this word
> > as some kind of negative.  Setting up this marketing scheme requires a
> > lot of business development with hardware vendors, etc.
> >
> >    Sorry if Im letting down the Linux revolution, but you've got to face
> > the reality of what the average person gets with a major distributor.
> > Eventually, Im sure someone will figure out how to make the Big Mac of
> > linux PCs, and Im also sure that 50+% of people on this list will reject
> > it on the basis its not 'true linux'.  -jmz
> >
> >> Craig
> >>
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