OT: notebook shopping

[Joshua Zeidner]

  I think you've got the effect here where people think its higher
quality *because* the price is high.

  As I mentioned, a lot of what you pay for with Dell or Lenovo is for
people who call up and ask basic questions.  So all these people use
resources that is embedded in the cost for *all users*.  No one to
date has sufficiently served the class of DIY people (especially in
the laptop realm).  The cost of the parts themselves is actually very
low.

  -jmz

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:17 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think these are cool and if I had a few extra hundred dollars I'd buy one.
> However would you run your business on one?
>
> Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
>  btw- If youre looking to run Linux exclusively there are a lot more
> attractive options. One general observation I've made about hardware
> markets and Linux is that a large portion of the consumer price for
> major brand names is to cover *support* costs. These costs are for
> Windows support costs, mainly for the type of people that require help
> locating the *Blue E* to get on the interweb. Most of the people on
> this list are not in this category, so why pay for it? A few
> companies here and there are offering alternatives to these costs and
> offering attractive products for extremely low price points ($300).
> You can then take the remaining $1700 and invest it in the stock
> market. :)
>
>  there was this hullabaloo:
> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/0,39029450,49291844,00.htm
>
>  http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9292516116.html
>
>  http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=56501
>
>  -jmz
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Jason Hayes wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday 20 April 2008 1:05:57 pm Vaughn Treude wrote:
> > > Hello everybody!
> > >
> > > I'm planning to buy a new notebook,
> > <>
> >
>
> > > Any comments or relevant experiences any of you could share?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Vaughn
> >
> >
> > Vaughn:
> >
> > I picked up a Lenovo T61p (Intel 2.2 GHz dual core, Nvidia Quadro FX 570M
> 256
> > MB, 2 Gig Ram, 100 Gig SATA 7200 rpm, DVD burner, 3 USB ports, 15.4", card
> > reader) just before Christmas and have enjoyed it from the word go.
> >
> > I had some initial issues with wireless on my Mandriva 2008.0 system, but
> just
> > upgraded to 2008.1 spring and the issue disappeared (driver-related).
> >
> > No problems with any of the other hardware. I also purchased the
> ThinkVision
> > L194 widescreen LCD monitor and the docking station (plus a few other
> > accessories keyboard, mouse, SATA drive bay adapter) at the same time.
> >
> > I picked all of that up for about $2200.
> >
> > Side note, I was foolish enough to get the Vista version, instead of XP
> (they
> > wouldn't sell it without Windows but they did offer XP). I set it up for
> dual
> > boot and also run VirtualBox with an XP virtual machine. The Vista system
> > won't run updates, it just starts downloading and hangs at 0%. I use it so
> > infrequently that I haven't bothered to spend the time figuring out why.
> >
> > This machine is a good deal smaller than my previous Acer 1804, so
> carrying it
> > for business is a LOT easier. Battery life is around 2 to 2.5 hours which
> is
> > about double the life of either of my previous Acers.
> >
> > Overall, I am pretty happy with the Lenovo.
> >
> > HTH
> > Jason Hayes
> >
> >
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