GoDaddy bullying tactics

Mon Aug 20 11:09:04 MST 2007

On 8/20/07, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Given your scenario, I would need to own the base domain of grill.com.  I
> do not and so GoDaddyGrill.com was born

  umm... just to clarify, I am suggesting that the owner of grill.com could
effectively monetize their asset by reselling subdomains.  So I guess in
this scenario, you would contract the ownership of the subdomain
godaddy.grill.com from the owners of grill.com.  I think this is a market
schema a few people envisioned years ago, but it didn't really pan out for
some reason.  As I said there is no 'out of the box' legal way to do this,
but I would wager to guess that it is supported by US law (TINLA!).

  remember the primary value in a domain is mnemonic (easy to remember), and
godaddy.grill.com is just as easy to remember (if not more) than
godaddygrill.com .  you could even subdomain daddygrill.com to make
go.daddygrill.com.

  in general though, domain names are way too overvalued.

  -jmz

I do like sub-domains and so do the search engines.  The search engines like
> them a lot.
>
>
> *Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
>   Keith,
>
>     There is absolutely no reason why the owner of grill.com can't sell
> off godaddy.grill.com , and you can even have the www.godaddy.grill.comaddress.  It's not commonly done, but I don't see any issues with it (it
> does perhaps defy habitual use patterns*).  In the days of the million
> dollar domain, it would appear to make sense in many situations.
>
>     best of luck in dealing with GoDaddy, once I was literally on the
> phone with the for almost 6 hours and they couldn't even tell me if I was a
> paying customer or not!
>
>   -jmz
>
> * in my opinion it actually looks better, wouldn't you rather have
> www.go.daddy.grill.com, than www.godaddygrill.com?  it's way more
> readable.
>
>
>
>
> On 8/20/07, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yes they are very incorrigible, I know that first hand...
> >
> > I'm not sure what you meant by using sub-domains... You mean get a plain
> > vanilla domain and use sub-domains to create sections or categories?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>* wrote:
> >
> >
> >  I just want to say GoDaddy is absolutely incorrigible!  There was
> > another similar complaint on AZIPA not so long ago, the accusation was that
> > GoDaddy was brokering the WHOIS queries to domain squatters. I had thought
> > that GoDaddy would not engage in such activities, but now I have my doubts.
> >
> >  I still don't understand why people don't use subdomains more often.
> > If domain names are the new real estate, what are subdomains, the new
> > condos? :)
> >
> >  -jmz
> >
> >
> > On 8/20/07, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Here is the latest turn of events - Yesterday I setup a transfer to
> > > 1and1 and today I get an email from GoDaddy as follows:
> > >
> > > ------
> > >
> > > Dear Keith Smith,
> > >
> > > The transfer of   GODADDYGRILL.COM from Domains Priced Right to another
> > >  registrar could not be completed for the following reason(s):
> > >
> > > Evidence of legal or other dispute such as a Court order, reasonable
> > >  dispute over the identity of the Registered Name Holder, or an action of
> > >
> > >
> > >  the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------
> > >
> > > Okay ... These guys are really starting to irritate me!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Josef Lowder < joe at actionline.com>* wrote:
> > >
> > > .
> > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, keith smith wrote
> > > > I have had some time to think about everything and
> > > > feel I need to sit tight for now.
> > > >
> > > > I do not have the time nor do I have the desire to fight with
> > > > GoDaddy, however I do not want to be bullied into anything either.
> > >
> > > Sounds good. I certainly am not advocating "fighting" with
> > > anybody, either. It's just a matter of taking a stand for what
> > > is reasonable and just.
> > >
> > > > For now I am going to take a passive stance.
> > >
> > > Good call.
> > >
> > > > If Godaddy does decide to mess with my main website, which brings
> > > > me all my business, I will weigh my options.
> > >
> > > I think everybody on the planet would be shocked and repulsed
> > > if godaddy tried to do anything to harm you or anybody in any way.
> > > Such a misstep by them could very well prompt a mass exodus of
> > > registrations transferred to other registrars.
> > >
> > > > If anyone would like to buy GoDaddyGrill.com it might be for sale.
> > >
> > > Well worth exploring. Some "activist" might be very
> > > interested in it. Or it might make a great BBQ grill
> > > trademark name worth developing.
> > >
> > > ;))
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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