PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 19

[Max Tee]

Is anyone aware of a LUG in the Las Vegas area?

Thanks,
Max

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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: acquiring digital music (KevinO)
>    2. Re: cdrecord - was Re: dd anyone? (Vaughn
> Treude)
>    3. Re: too many choices (distros) (Siri Amrit
> Kaur)
>    4. POP from gmail using fetchmail (Lynn David
> Newton)
>    5. Re: too many choices (distros) (Siri Amrit
> Kaur)
>    6. Re: POP from gmail using fetchmail (Jeremy C.
> Reed)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:07:02 -0700
> From: KevinO <kevin at kevino.org>
> Subject: Re: acquiring digital music
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> Dennis Kibbe wrote:
> > One could argue that iTunes, Sony SonicStage, etc.
> is just another form of
> > vendor lockin.
> > 
> > I like the philosophy of John Buckman at Magnatune
> (
> > http://www.magnatune.com/info/why). They offer a
> wide variety of music and
> > you can download in many different formats
> including ogg and flac.
> > 
> Yep, wav format too if you have to bandwidth.
> 
> Another happy customer,
> - --
> KevinO
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:17:05 -0700
> From: Vaughn Treude <vltreude at deru.com>
> Subject: Re: cdrecord - was Re: dd anyone?
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> On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:34, Austin Godber wrote:
> > Vaughn Treude wrote:
> > > I've been also having a bit of trouble making
> CD's on my Ubuntu system. 
> > > The CD burner GUI that came with it works fine
> except that I can't
> > > figure out how to do an ISO with it.  Of course
> the cdrecord tool
> > > doesn't work because it can't see the device.  I
> may have to get this
> > > Gnome-Bake program.
> > 
> > Hi Vaughn,
> > 	Did you read:
> > /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup
> > or the Debian README in the same directory?  These
> should help get you 
> > going.
> > 
> > Also did you try specifying ATAPI when you do
> scanbus:
> > cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI:
> > 
> > This shows my IDE DVD burner just fine in Ubuntu
> install (5.04 I think).
> 
> That does work, on both Debian and Mandrake. 
> Thanks!  Guess I should
> have RTFM.
> 
> Vaughn
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> > Austin
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:15:21 -0700
> From: Siri Amrit Kaur <tigerflag at tigerflag.com>
> Subject: Re: too many choices (distros)
> To: Micah DesJardins <micahdj at gmail.com>,	Main PLUG
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> On Wednesday 05 October 2005 03:39 pm Micah
> DesJardins kindly wrote:
> > As much as we keep talking about the differences,
> the reality is
> > (for me at least) that there really aren't that
> many big
> > differences:
> >
> > Basically you're looking at .deb distros, .rpm
> distros, or source
> > distros. Beyond that it's all about the distro
> philosophy, the
> > relative "speed" of the project's distribution
> cycle,
> > community/third party support and what it is
> you're looking for in
> > a distribution.
> >
> > Anybody else feel the same? (or differently?)
> >
> > Micah
> 
> There's also a difference in init systems- how the
> system launches 
> it's applications and services. Slackware and it's
> derivatives use 
> the BSD-style init system. Most other Linuxes use
> the SysV-init. 
> 
> I started with Mandrake 8.0. Tried a lot of
> different distros because 
> I wanted to learn. It wasn't until my second try of
> Slackware that I 
> really started learning much. Slack uses the
> BSD-style init system. I 
> find it much simpler to understand than SysV. I've
> tried and tried to 
> understand how to turn something on or off in a SysV
> system, and 
> people in this list have tried to help me, but I
> just don't get it. I 
> don't know if I like Slack's setup because it was
> the first one I 
> learned, or I learned it because it's just simpler
> than SysV. Being 
> able to understand and tweak the init system can be
> an important 
> thing to consider.
> 
> Siri Amrit
> 
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