Professional licensing

Gene Holmerud plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Sat, 24 May 2003 21:41:58 -0700 (PDT)


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The Board is concerned with the practice offered to the public, mostly consulting endeavers.  Major companies like public utilities support the Board and encourage their engineers to become registered.   This gives the public recourse when deliverables (porducts, blueprints, etc.) are faulty.  There are lots of investigations and penalties.
 
Having said that, producing software is an engineering process.  How soon Arizona, or more importantly, nation-wide, that that is recognized I have no guess.  However, I do remember doing a digital circuit on my exam for Electrical Engineering.
 
Gene

Alan Dayley <alandd@mindspring.com> wrote:
On Saturday 24 May 2003 08:27, Alan Dayley wrote:
> On Saturday 24 May 2003 07:22, William Lindley wrote:
> > Arizona Revised Statues
> > 32-123. Application for registration and certification
> >
> > (L00, ch 86, sec. 7)
> >
> > A. A person desiring to practice architecture, assaying, engineering,
> > geology, home inspection, landscape architecture or land surveying shall
> > make application for registration or certification on a form prescribed
> > by the board, subscribed under oath and accompanied by the application
> > fee.
>
> --[clip]--
>
> All of the above mentioned areas of competency can easily be tied to
> construction and safety of the constructed product. To me that indicates
> that the meaning of "engineering" as used above is structural engineering.
> It seems to me to be a reach to say software and even electrical (digital)
> engineering is covered by this article. If that were so, it could read "If
> you build or inspect buildings, highways, bridges, railroads, gardens or
> video games, you must be certified." Software just doen't seem to fit in
> that group.
>
> Any lawyers want to venture a non-binding clarification?

At the Arizona State Board of Technical Registration web site, one can search 
for registered professionals. At the bottom of the search page is a 
selection for the technical discipline of the person you wish to search for.

http://www.btr.state.az.us/RegistrantSearch.asp

That list box has "ENGINEER/ELECTRICAL" and "ENGINEER (GENERAL)" but those are 
the closest disciplines listed that could be construed to include a software 
engineer. Based on that non-binding, non-legal definition :^), I would say 
that software engineering does not require registration in the State of 
Arizona.

Alan

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<DIV>The Board is concerned with the practice offered to the public, mostly consulting endeavers.&nbsp; Major companies like public utilities support the Board and encourage their engineers to become registered.&nbsp;&nbsp; This gives the public recourse when deliverables (porducts, blueprints, etc.) are faulty.&nbsp; There are lots of investigations and penalties.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Having said that, producing software is an engineering process.&nbsp; How soon Arizona, or more importantly, nation-wide, that that is recognized I have no guess.&nbsp; However, I do&nbsp;remember doing a digital circuit on my exam for Electrical Engineering.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Gene<BR><BR><B><I>Alan Dayley &lt;alandd@mindspring.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">On Saturday 24 May 2003 08:27, Alan Dayley wrote:<BR>&gt; On Saturday 24 May 2003 07:22, William Lindley wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; Arizona Revised Statues<BR>&gt; &gt; 32-123. Application for registration and certification<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; (L00, ch 86, sec. 7)<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; A. A person desiring to practice architecture, assaying, engineering,<BR>&gt; &gt; geology, home inspection, landscape architecture or land surveying shall<BR>&gt; &gt; make application for registration or certification on a form prescribed<BR>&gt; &gt; by the board, subscribed under oath and accompanied by the application<BR>&gt; &gt; fee.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --[clip]--<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; All of the above mentioned areas of competency can easily be tied to<BR>&gt; construction and safety of the constructed product. To me that indicates<BR>&gt; that the meaning of "engineering" as used above is structural engineering.<BR>&gt; It seems to me to be a reach to say software and even electrical (digital)<BR>&gt; engineering is covered by this article. If that were so, it could read "If<BR>&gt; you build or inspect buildings, highways, bridges, railroads, gardens or<BR>&gt; video games, you must be certified." Software just doen't seem to fit in<BR>&gt; that group.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Any lawyers want to venture a non-binding clarification?<BR><BR>At the Arizona State Board of Technical Registration web site, one can search <BR>for registered professionals. At the bottom of the search page is a <BR>selection for the technical discipline of the person you wish to search for.<BR><BR>http://www.btr.state.az.us/RegistrantSearch.asp<BR><BR>That list box has "ENGINEER/ELECTRICAL" and "ENGINEER (GENERAL)" but those are <BR>the closest disciplines listed that could be construed to include a software <BR>engineer. Based on that non-binding, non-legal definition :^), I would say <BR>that software engineering does not require registration in the State of <BR>Arizona.<BR><BR>Alan<BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------<BR>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us<BR>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings:<BR>http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr SIZE=1>
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