Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope

[Tom Achtenberg]

I'm still here because I don't like to give up on something before I exhaust all possibilities.  I keep hearing from a few people how wonderful and easy to use Linux is and I'd like to see it.  I agree with the concept of open source.  Unfortunately I have yet to find Linux to be so fantastic or experience all the negative I've heard from this group about Microsoft and Red Hat.  

What does bother me is you have some people on this list complaining about Microsoft for all it's alleged problems and at the same time ignoring all the hoops they need to jump through to run Linux.  By this I mean things like recompiling the kernel to get a printer to work etc.  What's the difference between doing that and tweaking something in Windows?  Why is one acceptable and the other is not?  I also don't like all the complaining some of these people do about commercial software (meaning any software you have to pay for) and at the same time complaining about all the out of work programmers.

I'm trying to give Linux a chance for my desktop but I'm not going to sit back and listen to all the Microsoft bashing and ignore all the blatant short comings of the Linux desktop.  For someone like me who uses several email accounts and discussion lists, Kmail is the best email client I've seen.  If I can ever get my Linux desktop stable enough to rely on it will become my email client of choice.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Parrish [mailto:cparrish@carlparrish.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:16 PM
To: Plug-discuss
Subject: RE: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope


Tom I don't mean to be rude but why are you still here? I mean you've
been complaining about Linux for over a year I have to wonder why you're
on a linux mailing list. 

Carl P. 

On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 13:08, Tom Achtenberg wrote:
> Phil,  I had the same problems with my RH 7.3 box.  It was much less stable than my Windows 98 box!  I finally gave up.  I'm now trying Mandrake 9.1.  It took 4 days and several attempts to get the install completed without errors.  (Found the disk 1 iso on the Hawaii mirror is bad too.)  I haven't had much time to work with it yet, but it has been a disappointment too.  Mandrake update doesn't work to start with.  The whole task bar at the bottom of the screen keeps disappearing too.  Only way to get it back is to log off and log back on.  This same box would run for weeks on Win 98 with no errors.  I have not even tried to connect to my file server or printers yet.  If I cannot do it without manually editing files I'll probably just put Windows back on and forget about Linux for a desktop.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Mattison [mailto:mattison@ohmikron.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope
> 
> 
> Here's my chance to do a little whining. I've been having problems with both
> Gnome and KDE on a development server I have (RH7.3). I hardly ever use
> either, but it seems whenever I use either for much more than reading email
> the system tends to become unstable, may even crash sometimes, or the disk
> gets corrupted and requires repair on the next boot. Not very impressive for
> a system reputed to be sooooo stable.
> --Phil M.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: George Gambill <ggambill@computer-guidance.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:20 AM
> Subject: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope
> 
> 
> > I want to change from Gnome to KDE (RH 8).  I have been lead to believe
> > Gnome (at least under LTSP) has a memory leak.
> >
> > I thought I could insert the RH 8 CD, boot, select upgrade with the
> > customize box checked and then down stream a ways (in the screens) select
> > (check) KDE with some minor shuck'n and jive'n after the upgrade.  As I go
> > through the screens (Tree View), nothing is checked.  I expected to see
> the
> > existing packages checked.  I canceled.
> >
> > Is there an easier way?  FWIW, this box happens to be an LTSP server.
> This
> > is the box I hope to bring to the next InstallFest for demonstration
> (LTSP)
> > purposes, if that an LTSP demo is deemed worthy.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > George Wayne Gambill ...  Registered Linux User: #311028
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