Free Software for m$

David Mandala plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
24 Sep 2002 21:48:45 -0700


You are welcome to disagree however since it costs me no time it is not
a waste of it. Most of the people I deal with through out the world are
well aware of the value, they know that mail signed by me comes from me
exactly as I wrote it. Hell even my mother who is 79 knows to check for
my sign. It is simply a matter of education, most folks once they get an
explanation understand the value of it and some not all install a crypto
client to be able to sign their own messages.

For commercial email I normally encrypt it with the other parties key.
Then it is secure, I rarely use encryption, I reserve that for documents
that need to be private, contract discussions, contracts etc.

As I said before this is one of the few places I normally don't sign my
mail, too many folks that run MS products with broken email clients.
Actually I am continually amazed how many folks on this list actually
don't use Linux. I usually find that LUG lists are Linux friendly.

Anyway this horse has been beaten enough so this is my last email on the
subject.

Cheers,

Davidm

On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 21:11, Tom Achtenberg wrote:
> I disagree here.  Signing is meaningless to most people.  It is simply a
> waste of time except maybe in rare commercial situations.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Mandala" <davidm@them.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Free Software for m$
> 
> 
> I would disagree with you on the "Rarely, if ever, needed." comment, I
> go to the other extreme, "Always needed, rarely used by the clueless".
> There is no reason not to sign your email and many reasons it is good
> to.
> 
> Because many people on this list use broken email clients I don't sign
> mail on this list, but I do sign mail most everywhere else. It's my
> email, I don't want anyone changing it and then be able to say I said it
> a different way.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Davidm
> 
> On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 06:56, William Lindley wrote:
> > On 24 Sep 2002, David Mandala wrote:
> > > That is because he is signing them. That is the correct way a signed
> > > email should look.
> >
> > [soapbox]
> >
> > Signing???  What's up with that.
> >
> > At any rate, it breaks any hope of searching archived emails, because
> > obviously a Find function doesn't search attachments.
> >
> > It also makes reading email with Pine, or Outlook 97 for that matter, a
> > real bother.
> >
> > Seems right up there with HTML-ized email for "Rarely, if ever, needed."
> >
> > [dismount soapbox]
> >
> > Ahh, the curse of the Installed Base.
> >
> > \\/
> >
> >
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