I tried up2date -u on a RH7.2 system I use for development, and it crashed after I'm not sure how long. I did update up2date itself before starting. This did not inspire confidence. I'm seeing a lot of recommendations for Debian, maybe I'll look into it. Stability is what I want most. -- Phil Mattison Ohmikron Corp. 480-722-9595 602-820-9452 Mobile