Before you start hoisting flamming tarballs in my direction, read the title of BOTH articles - you'll get a chuckle a least. Why Linux will never be as secure as OpenBSD http://seifried.org/security/os/20011107-linux-openbsd.html Why OpenBSD will never be as secure as Linux http://seifried.org/security/os/20011107-openbsd-linux.html Dennis Kibbe