tcpwrappers

George Toft plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:35:20 -0400


You bring up a good point.  LDAP is not under inetd control, but I had
to add 127.0.0.1 (LOCAL wasn't good enough) to connect to my local LDAP
server.

What's the explanation for this?

George


Mike Starke wrote:
> 
> No need to eat crow......I think this was the point I
> was trying to make. Some services are (undr wrapper control),
> some are not, some used to be and no longer are, and then
> some behave just as I expect, those that are only run
> under inetd. It is the inconsistencies from service to
> service, and from year to year (your case) that I find
> confusing. I think you mentioned chasing down an issue
> with SNMP and I with ldap; seems to me one should just
> 'know' what's under wrapper control and what is not.
> 
> v/r
> Mike
> 
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:18:04AM -0400, George Toft wrote:
>  Crow chomp chomp
> 
>  I do not understand  . . .
> 
>  I have tested your theory and your are right (as of 2002).  I know for a
>  fact that in 2000, what I described worked as described.  I have seen it
>  in action - I tossed IP's into /etc/hosts.deny because they were abusing
>  our machines an as soon as I did so, the abuse stopped.  We did not have
>  Apache under inetd control.
> 
>  I stand corrected.
> 
>  George
> 
> 
>  Digital Wokan wrote:
>  >
>  > Apache is only under the control of /etc/hosts.allow|deny when you set it up
>  > to start as an inetd service instead of in standalone mode.  For a low use or
>  > testing site, this may be okay, but it is a large bottleneck to high-usage
>  > sites, where a firewall-based blocking solution would make more sense to use
>  > against abusers.
>  >
>  > On Thursday 10 October 2002 20:40, George Toft wrote:
>  > > What makes you think Apache is not?  Whe I was at the .com in LA, we had
>  > > a script that analyzed Apache log files, and dropped the abuser's IP
>  > > netowrk into /etc/host.deny for 48 hours.  That locked him (and a chunk
>  > > of his ISP) out so he couldn't redial and continue the attack.
>  > >
>  > > I know for a fact that SNMP is under tpc wrapper control - that was one
>  > > of the biggest bitches to solve.
>  > >
>  > > SSH is also controlled by TCP wrappers - I use it as redundancy in case
>  > > I make stupid typos and open SSH to my $EXTIF instead of my $INTIF.  I
>  > > did this, and I discovered it through looking at my logs.
>  > >
>  > > What I discovered two weeks ago about OpenLDAP was that LOCAL is not the
>  > > same as 127.0.0.1.  To every other service I have used in the last 6
>  > > years it was, but noooo - not OpenLDAP.
>  > >
>  > > Anyway, it's called TCP wrappers, not inet wrappers, because it affects
>  > > all TCP services.  My hosts.allow file looks like this:
>  > >       ALL: LOCAL, 127.0.0.1, 192.168.55.
>  > > which supports my LDAP, MySQL, Apache and DNS servers.  The 192.196.55
>  > > LAN is another interface that needs DNS and HTTP services.
>  > >
>  > > George
>  > >
>  > > Mike Starke wrote:
>  > > > Years ago, I seem to recall that the only services
>  > > > under control of hosts.allow & hosts.deny were those
>  > > > under inetd (/etc/inetd.conf).
>  > > >
>  > > > I just spent the past hour trying to figure out why I couldn't
>  > > > connect to my new ldap server from a remote site; come to find
>  > > > out all I needed was a simple entry in /etc/hosts.allow Being that
>  > > > slapd runs as a deamon, I stared at my slapd.conf file and couldn't
>  > > > find any reason why a connection was denied.
>  > > >
>  > > > Simple question: How does one know when a service is under
>  > > > tcpwrappers? Apache & Bind are not, what should have made
>  > > > me think slapd was?
>  > > >
>  > > > v/r
>  > > > Mike
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