Spam.

[George Toft]

Check out spamcop.net.

George

Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> OK, I have a (perhaps dumb) question. Is there an email address that I can
> use to forward an email spam message that I receive and have the sender put
> on a spam list? Automatically blocked, perhaps? Does anyone provide this
> service?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Phillips
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Bill Nash [SMTP:billn@billn.net]
> Sent:   Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:04 AM
> To:     plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject:        Re: Spam.
> 
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, George Toft wrote:
> 
> > The problem is in the content of the e-mail.  This is much like the
> > highway.  We pay our licensing fee to the state (fee to the ISP), and we
> > load up our car and drive (send e-mail).  How can you tell that the
> > person in the car committed some crime (violated AUP)?  You can't, until
> > someone else complains.  Make the roads toll-roads, like California's
> > private highways (require SSL), and all you've done is slow down the
> > system.
> 
>         Good points. In the case of a legitimate ISP or other hosting
> business, a chunk of content in your AUP specifically prohibiting spam and
> a no-nonsense attitude would go a long way to discouraging this kind of
> behavior. What about a reserved right within your AUP stating violators of
> the spam policy are subject to a nice fat 'service charge'? Again, hit
> them in the wallet. My entire idea is focused on accountability and being
> able to pin down the spam to a responsible party.
> 
> > Then there are the spam-friendly ISP's that cater to the spammers.  How
> > do you block them?  Reject their Cert?  By what criteria?  A Realtime
> > Black List?  Isn't that what we do now?
> 
>         That's pretty much the whole idea. Cert blocking can be done a la
> carte by mail admins who deem certain servers as worthy. I think one thing
> most people don't realize is that you don't HAVE to accept mail from other
> servers if you don't want it. Packets and trust, again.
> 
> > What I see here is the opportunity to sell an e-mail server appliance.
> > We used to have Linux Firewall's on a floppy (I know we still do), now
> > we have little black box routers from D-Link and LinkSys.  What about a
> > simple mail server appliance with a web GUI where you feed it your ISP's
> > info, it filters your mail based on the ANTI-SPAM HOW-TO posted last
> > week, and your mail client receives everything through it.  How much
> > would you spend to avoid 99% of all spam?  $50?  $100?  Anyone think we
> > can fit it on a single floppy?
> 
>         I think it'd be a fairly simple task to retool something like
> Trinux to handle this.
> 
> - billn
> 
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