Calling all bigots

JD Austin IV plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:20:35 -0700 (MST)


This is like most other lists.. lots of chatter with some marginally off
topic posts.  Im on other lists that are WAY worse :)

We're all Linux advocates, I doubt many windows advocates are on this list,
 so many of us don't care for windows..   I see windows getting gradually
better as it becomes more *nix like :)

Before Win2k I said adamantly that 'Windows Sucks'.  Since win2k it has
almost reached the level of stability I expect, so I am no as down on
windows anymore.

JD


> This is getting a little old,  Microsoft made computers a house hold
> product.  This list may never see it, but Linux would not be as wide
> spread if it was not for Microsoft.
>
> This will be second and last time I subscribe to this list, it has not
> changed in the last 2 Years and I don't see it ever changing.
>
> I have seen couple of good postings, but most of them are Junk.
>

> Richard
>
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> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:00 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: Calling all bigots
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> Back to the uptime, from whence this sprouted.  On that seed, XP fails
> miserably.  If Bill has not updated his system, its not because the
> fixes  were not available from the vendor.  The XP vulnerabilities, and
> we all know  they are there, will be fixed when the vendor decides it
> is profitable for  their shareholders.  I think that trumps any
> so-called uptime stability.
>
> On Monday 11 March 2002 19:44, you wrote:
>> When I see numbers like that, I cringe.  Just looking over the
>> last couple months, these kernel-related SecurityFocus BugTraq
>> advisories have been issued:
>> - 02.03.026
>> - 02.04.004
>> - 02.04.030
>> - 02.09.021
>> (a nice blend of information leakage, DoS attacks, and root exploits).
>>
>> With an uptime that large, I'm betting you have not patched your
>> kernel lately :)  A large uptime is not necessarily a good thing.
>>
>> George
>>
>> Bill Warner wrote:
>> > #uptime
>> > 5:31pm  up 419 days, 21:59,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
>> >
>> > talk to me when you get close to this.  (and it is just not busy
>> > right now becase its after 5pm)
>> >
>> > Bill Warner
>> >
>> > On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 15:51, George Toft wrote:
>> > > My wife's shiny new computer, with Windows XP preloaded, had to be
>> > > rebooted this weekend after an appalling 60 days of uptime. Look
>> > > out Linux, it looks like Microsoft is on to something.  Now all I
>> > > have to do is figure out how my son can play his games without
>> > > being an administrator.
>> > >
>> > > George
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> Jim
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> Freedom is worth preserving
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