Fw: Computer Purchasing Guidelines

Sun, 16 Jun 2002 13:10:51 -0700

It would be a lot more civil than the way Monoposoft has treated its users, 
distributors, partners, and even it's beloved MCSE's.

On Wednesday 19 June 2002 09:34, Kimi A. Adams wrote:
> Would this be civil?
>
> Kimi
>
> At 6/19/02, you wrote:
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> >According to the state administrative rules, it looks like most if not all
> > of the school districts could be required to initiate debarment
> > proceedings against MS.  Anyone know an attorney who is willing to take
> > something like this on pro-bono?
> >
> >On Tuesday 18 June 2002 21:39, you wrote:
> > > Here is the response I received from David Cantelme, Deer Valley school
> > > board member.  He is the one who has arizonalawinstitute@yahoo.com as
> > > his email address.  It sounds to me that all the school districts and
> > > the state itself should be starting debarment proceedings against MS. 
> > > We need to start contacting the legislators, Attorney General's office
> > > and your local school superintendents.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "david cantelme" <arizonalawinstitute@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Tom Achtenberg" <tom@mrhsband.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:08 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Computer Purchasing Guidelines
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Actenburg:
> > >
> > > They do not, but similar rules found in the state
> > > school district procurement rules do apply.  Both sets
> > > of rules have their origen in the state procurement
> > > code.  You can find the school district procurement
> > > rules by going to the secretary of state web site.
> > > Click on administrative rules.  Go to title seven.
> > > Then scroll down to R7-2-1001.  That's where the rules
> > > begin.  They continue to about R7-2-1175.
> > >
> > > Debarment procedures do exist in the school district
> > > procurement rules.  You would need to address your
> > > comments on debarment to the adminsitration.  That's
> > > who would initiate the procedure.  If the
> > > administration initiates a debarment procedure, the
> > > board determines whether to appoint a hearing officer.
> > >  It goes from there to the officer with appropriate
> > > due process to the contractor.  The board itself has
> > > no involvement in the hearing process.  The officer
> > > must be independent to ensure a fair hearing under our
> > > constitutional system.
> > >
> > > --- Tom Achtenberg <tom@mrhsband.org> wrote:
> > > > I was wondering if the Maricopa County purchasing
> > > > policies listed below apply
> > > > to DVUSD purchasing pprocedures?
> > > >
> > > > Maricopa County policies.  Interesting references:
> > > >
> > > > MC1-101 DEFINITIONS
> > > > 25."CONTRACTOR" means any Person who has a Contract
> > > > with a County
> > > > Governmental unit. For purposes of Article 5,
> > > > Contractor may also mean
> > > > Respondent as defined in this Article.
> > > > 36."DEBARMENT" means an action taken by the County
> > > > Administrative
> > > > Officer under MC1-902 to prohibit a Person from
> > > > Participating in
> > > > Maricopa County Procurements.
> > > > 80."PERSON" means any corporation, Business,
> > > > individual, union,
> > > > committee, club, other organization or group of
> > > > individuals.
> > > > 113."SUSPENSION" means an action taken by the County
> > > > Administrative
> > > > Officer under MC1-902 temporarily disqualifying a
> > > > Person from
> > > > participating in Maricopa County Procurements.
> > >
> > > http://maricopa.gov/materials/p-code/HTML_code/Code-01.htm
> > >
> > > > [Microsoft is considered a Contractor and a Person.
> > > > This is important
> > > > below.]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > MC1-407 MAXIMUM PRACTICABLE COMPETITION
> > > > All Specifications shall seek to promote overall
> > > > economy for the purpose
> > > > intended and encourage competition in satisfying
> > > > Maricopa County's needs
> > > > and shall not be unduly restrictive.
> > >
> > > http://maricopa.gov/materials/p-code/HTML_code/Code-04.htm#MC1-401
> > >
> > > > [Is there any technology that is Microsoft
> > > > exclusive?  I believe there
> > > > are sites that explain how to replace Exchange
> > > > Server completely using
> > > > Linux/OSS with Qmail; and SQL Server is replaceable
> > > > with mySQL or PostgreSQL;
> > > > IIS & ASP is replaceable with Apache & PHP, The MS
> > > > Office suite is
> > > > replaceable with the very comparable Open Office
> > > > suite.]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > MC1-902 DEBARMENT AND SUSPENSION OF CONTRACTORS
> > > > B. The causes for Debarment or Suspension shall
> > > > include, but are not
> > > > limited to, the following:
> > > > 2. Conviction of any Person or any subsidiary or
> > > > affiliate of any Person
> > > > under any statute of the Federal government, this
> > > > State or its political
> > > > subdivision or any other State for:
> > > > k. Any other offense indicating a lack of business
> > > > integrity or business
> > > > honesty which affects responsibility as a
> > > > Contractor.
> > > > 3. Conviction or civil judgment finding a violation
> > > > by any Person or any
> > > > subsidiary or affiliate of any Person under State or
> > > > Federal Antitrust
> > > > Statutes.
> > >
> > > http://maricopa.gov/materials/p-code/HTML_code/Code-09.htm#MC1-901
> > >
> > > > As I read MC1-902.B.3, Microsoft (a Person), having
> > > > been convicted of a
> > > > violation of Federal Antitrust Statues, cannot be a
> > > > County Contractor.
> > > >
> > > > There are many alternatives to Microsofts products.
> > > > Alternatives that have
> > > > broken no laws, Federal or Local, are well supported
> > > > and used by many large
> > > > governments (Germany, Taiwan, et al).  As a
> > > > concerned voter in the DVUSD, I
> > > > must point out that I cannot support criminal
> > > > behavior and would hope that my
> > > > Governing Board would see fit to do the same and
> > > > ONLY consider alternatives
> > > > as Microsoft is clearly unqualified to meet District
> > > > requirements.
> > > >
> > > > Thank You,
> > > >
> > > > Tom Achtenberg
> > > >
> > > > PS this message was written ans sent to you using a
> > > > computer that is 100%
> > > > Microsoft free.  It uses the Red Hat Linux 7.3
> > > > operating system, KDE windows
> > > > like desktop and the K-mail email client.  All if
> > > > these programs come under
> > > > the "General Public License" which means they are
> > > > 100% free to the public for
> > > > personal and commercial use.
> > > > --
> > > > Visit the Mountain Ridge Band Site at
> > >
> > > http://www.mrhsband.org
> > >
> > >
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> >Jim
> >
> >Freedom is worth protecting
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