Mensan seeks work

[Tom Achtenberg]

You sound off a lot of very shaky and unfounded accusations here.  How many
"wealthy entrepreneur's" have you actually met?  Sure some are less than
honest, I'd be really surprised if it was the majority as you suppose.

Overall you sound very cynical so much so that I wonder if you yourself have
been caught by the embellished resume bug.

I'll stick to my original statement "It will ALWAYS come back to haunt you
eventually if you are not honest
across the board."  Most decent employees would not work at firms that are
as you describe below.  Fortunately, the ones like you describe are a small
minority.


It most definitely is a matter of honesty and integrity.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Trent Shipley" <tcshipley@earthlink.net>
To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Mensan seeks work


I have never met a wealthy entrepreneur who could meet the definition of
'honest' that they demand/expect in resumes, from job applicants, etc.

It's not a matter of honesty.  If you believe that I submit that you are
both
nieve and subject to a false consciousness imposed by capitalist
Episcopalians on bourgeois Baptists and Methodists.

I recommend watching owners, management, marketing, and sales to see what is
really meant by terms like "integrety" and "honesty".  These are
self-serving
terms that tend to translate into (1) "don't get caught" and (2) never be so
stupid as to enunciate item #1 in the terms that that fool Trent (or
Machiavelli) just did herein.

What I find interesting is that most millionaries, being consumate
politicians,  say that their _integrity_ was a primary contributor to their
success.  What I find *amazing* is that they honestly believe they are men
(almost all of them are men) of moral integrity. [See the Millionaire Mind.
I reccomend the book even if I don't quite know how to interpret it, except
to expect never to be a millionaire.]

On Sunday 10 February 2002 12:33, you wrote:
> It will ALWAYS come back to haunt you eventually if you are not honest
> across the board.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Toft" <george@georgetoft.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Mensan seeks work
>
>
> I second that.  We just lost a guy because he claimed to have a Bachelor's
> Degree when he did not.  It only took them a week to figure it out.  He
> was a contractor for six months, so he knew his stuff.  When there is
> an abundant supply of talent, you can be choosy.  When there is a scarcity
> of talent, you take whatever comes your way.  You know where we are right
> now. .
> .
>
> George
>
> "Dr. Ghastly" wrote:
> > Uh, considering the work your looking for, I wouldn't consider lying.
The
> > company I work for does EXENSIVE background checks.
> >
> > ******************************************************************
> > Once you start down the dark path, forever will it
> > dominate your destiny, consume you it will...
> > ******************************************************************
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Trent Shipley" <tcshipley@earthlink.net>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: Mensan seeks work
> >
> > > I've seen really high numbers about lying on resumes.  I suspect that
> >
> > people
> >
> > > usually get away with it.  Of course, if you don't then it can really
>
> bite
>
> > > you in the ass--especially if you claim to be an experienced surgeon
or
> > > litigator.
> > >
> > > > Actually, another alternative is to lie about your
> > > > experience if you really know your stuff, but that usually comes
>
> around
>
> > to
> >
> > > > bite you in the ass.
> > > > ~M
> > >
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